Re: Converting from off highway fuel to on highway

Posted by john in la on October 21, 2004 at 20:17:06 from (68.222.52.156):

In Reply to: Converting from off highway fuel to on highway fue posted by thejdman01 on October 21, 2004 at 11:54:39:

Red dye is mixed with fuel at a rate of 1 gallon to 10,000 gallons. That is 6.4 oz per 100 gallons. And this amount will turn it blood red. So yes a small amount of dye will ruin a lot of diesel. But you are not dealing with red dye you are dealing with dyed fuel. 10 gals of fuel is only .64 oz of dye. This much mixed in 500 gals of fuel may make it a little darker but not even pink.
We mix red dye fuel and road fuel together every day. See when a truck loads red fuel at most racks all it is; is road diesel injected with dye. A lot of places do not even sell true high sulpher anymore. So when the next truck starts to load road diesel he gets the dyed fuel that was left in the piping from the first truck. It may be 5 gals but when mixed with 1000 gals you can not tell it apart from clear.
I would drain the tank as best as you can. Put 20 gals or so of clear in the tank to wash it out and drain. It may be a little to red so use this in your tractor. Document that the tank is empty and get a recite for the road diesel. This gives you a leg to stand on in case it is tested. Do not wash out the tank with a steam cleaner or water. This makes the water a hazardous material and must be disposed of properly. Only licensed places with water separators are suppose to do this.

About a CDL.
While I can not comment on your states exemptions if any I can tell you what the federal law says.
You must have a CDL with a H endorsement for any vehicle that has placards. A tank endorsement is needed for tanks over 1000 gallons.
So do you need placards?? While most placards kick in at 1000 pounds; Diesel is a class 3 combustible and must be placarded only in bulk. So is your tank a bulk tank?? If it is not removed from the vehicle for loading or unloading it is considered a bulk tank. So your 400 gallon tank will hold 400x7.5lbs per gallon or 3000lbs and would not be removed for loading. So you meet the requirements on both counts. Never have heard of a red fuel exemption to CDL rules but any thing is possible I guess. So you will need a CDL with a H endorsement to use your 400 gallon tank and it will need UN1993 placards. These rules will apply if the tank is full or empty. The only time you can remove the placards from a bulk tank is if it has been steamed cleaned out. The vapors that are left in the tank from the fuel are considered as much a hazardous material as the fuel itself. This is why bulk containers do not follow the 1000lb rule for applying placards.

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