Re: What's better 1066 0r 4440

Posted by G/MAN on December 16, 2004 at 10:29:41 from (67.52.48.10):

In Reply to: Re: What's better 1066 0r 4440 posted by supermpuller4 on December 16, 2004 at 08:44:02:

Nobody cares about the supposed numbers, except for you homeless IH boys that have no corporate legacy left to hold on to, other than what happened 20+ years ago. IH could claim to have built 100 million tractors, and there would be somebody gullible enough to believe it. Heck, your own numbers prove how IH started lagging behind. 8 years to go from 1 million to 3 million. 9 years to add another million. Another 10 years to add that last million. What's that tell you? The vast majority of the tractors they built were built before 1965. Considering how long they built tractors, those numbers aren't impressive at all. Same deal with the powershift IH never had. It doesn't make a bit of difference if they had one under development at the time of the buyout and if it DID make it into the Magnums. International-Harvester never had a full powershift. They didn't even have to innovate anything. The technology was already out there for the taking. And here's Cliff comparing a 5088 to a 4440, when he should be comparing it to a 4450, which was easily more tractor than a 5088. The 88s were IH's "state of the art" tractors in the early 80s, but he's comparing them to what was essentially an updated and beefed up 4430, which came out in '73. How about that 4450? Bigger engine, two tranny options (including a 15-speed full powershift), caster-action MFWD, and the list goes on and on. But, like I said, IH was a day late and a dollar short from the late 50s on. Had they introduced the 88s in the early to mid 70s, they would have had something - even without a powershift. The 86s were nothing but updated 66s with a new cab, and their cab design was limited by the fact that it had to fit on what was essentially an old chassis, instead of building something new from the ground up like Deere did with the 30s. You just keep looking through those IH-red glasses and dreaming about your 85-hp M&W kitted stock "M"s.

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• Re: What's better 1066 0r 4440 Cliff Neubauer 14:56:22 12/16/04 (3)
  • Re: What's better 1066 0r 4440 G/MAN 15:38:51 12/16/04 (2)
    • Re: What's better 1066 0r 4440 Super A 06:37:09 12/17/04 (1)
      • Re: What's better 1066 0r 4440 G/MAN 07:31:23 12/17/04 (0)
• Re: What's better 1066 0r 4440 supermpuller4 13:19:58 12/16/04 (3)
  • Re: What's better 1066 0r 4440 G/MAN 13:37:30 12/16/04 (2)
    • Re: What's better 1066 0r 4440 supermpuller4 13:51:27 12/16/04 (1)
      • Re: What's better 1066 0r 4440 G/MAN 15:23:32 12/16/04 (0)

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