Re: More China parts

Posted by Billy NY on March 05, 2006 at 10:01:01 from (152.163.100.74):

In Reply to: More China parts posted by 37 chief on March 04, 2006 at 22:07:27:

I've taken notice of this with rigging I used to buy for all crane work I used to do in NYC. No way I'm going to use something without a certified rating. I get the feeling years ago there were plenty of good American name brand manufacturers of items like rigging equipment, slings, chain falls, hoists etc etc. Plumbing items are the same way, valves especially.

Nails, I grabbed several 50 lb. boxes of galvanized nails almost 20 years ago, 16 commons hot dipped, and 12 common hot dipped, I noticed you could not find a heavy galvanized nail too, they are always the thinner ones like coated or I forget the name, same shape but not as thick as a common. We used to pick up at a warehouse that had rows and rows of pallets full of nails, guy there used to get me anything I needed, especially types you don't find easily.

You used to have great supply houses, not these chains and big box retailers with buyers only motivated for profit, the old traditional ones always carried great quality, and what about the machine industry, machinists used to get quality everything, I've lost confidence in so much of this, try to stick with the old school suppliers when possible. In the construction industry you see a lot of foreign made materials now, hate the chinese plumbing parts, 100% junk.

My father went to china 2 years ago, construction was booming there, they need steel like crazy and they know how to turn over a product that works but may not be of much quality.

I've had some chinese contractors on non-union projects that I got stuck doing, you have to stay on top of them, they can be a pain to deal with, as with most any of foreign backround. The communication thing is the biggest problem, it makes it tough to work together, you need a person who speaks the language on site. The quality of workmanship, and respect for safety exhibited is disappointing to say the least, their values are much different, get it done, get more done with less, a never ending quest, must be more efficient, must make money at all costs, it's almost evil. It makes a project managers job a nightmare sometimes. I can see where all this comes from, not good at all. Many times I would be on the phone or call for a meeting with the owners of these contracting outfits, to solve problems related to the job, only way to be heard and get it done the way it is suppoded to be done.

It's not a lack of intelligence,it's business and the bottom line with all of this, something is wrong here, you cannot sacrifice quality when it comes to things used for lifting, hoisting and what have you.

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