Re: Big 4WDs

Posted by davpal on July 07, 2006 at 21:24:20 from (216.93.94.142):

In Reply to: Re: Big 4WDs posted by Cherry Grower on July 07, 2006 at 19:44:10:

These tractors come in about 4 price ranges too. A new one off the JD lot is about $225000 dollars. A used JD or case IH about 6 years old will set you back about $100,000. A ten year old case IH, Ford Versatile or JD will be about $27,000 dollars and then you go down to the bottom of the barrel where all the "old" junkyard iron is where all brands can be had for about $3000-$10,000 bucks and you pretty much get what you get and good luck! Here you will find all your case 2470, steiger bearcats, cougars, versatile 555, white 4-180, 4-150, massey 1500,1505,1800, 4800. Ih 2 plus 2 tractors, JD 8430, Allis 7550. Quite a selection of used iron that is one step from being in the junkyard. They all have the potential to be a huge money pit. You also have to look around and see where your dealers are. Where I live in michigan the number one tractor you see working fields around here are JD. The second one is believe it or not, probably White. We have an articulated white about every square mile around here. There are 4-150's 180,s and an occasional 4-270, and a huge amount of 2-155,s and 2-105,s. To see a steiger around here is very rare as there are not any dealers. Our neighbor has a Ford FW-60 but that is about it for a ways. He also has a 4-210 white and the ford is parked a lot more than the white. Our versatile dealer went out of business 20 years ago so they are pretty scarce around here now. I haven't seen one working a field in years. I used to run a 895 and it was a good machine but the versatiles and steigers often lack a 3 point hitch and that kills the deal for most people. It was heavy too at about 33,000 pounds and drank about 11-12 gallons of fuel per hour. They are a huge hunk of iron and not the easiest thing to work on either. None of them are, I don't care about the component thing, NONE of them are real easy to work on because of the sheer size. Try splitting one to work on the tranny. As far as engines, I would much rather change a 3208 cat than an 855 cummins. You can pick up a cat at any truck salvage for $2000 bucks. The 855 is a tremendous project to rebuild. I am not buying all the bs on this board about 3208 engines being junk because they are fine. If all v-8 diesels are junk we are in big trouble with all the navistars, and duramax's out there. Being sleevless is a benefit as far as I am concerned while all the other engines with sleeves in them are puking coolant into the oil because of leaky o rings. Thousands of ya out there right! The silver bullet white pulling tractor is making more power than anybody out there in super stock and people have the nerve to call the 3208 bad. I think people should call it the king. It sure is in the winners circle a lot. I was thinking a white 4-180 would work good for you until you mentioned scraping dirt. That kind of eliminated the whites. They are not nearly heavy enough to doze dirt. I think you will be happy with a nice heavy steiger. That 1 inch thick steel frame will handle a dozer very well and the price on a used one should be pretty reasonable. Good luck with it. Its going to be fun. Later.

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• Re: Big 4WDs John Hagen 07:45:51 07/08/06 (0)

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