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Posted by Corn Belt on September 02, 1999 at 14:37:31 from (208.9.65.2):

In Reply to: Re: Harvest Quiz #2... posted by The Red on September 02, 1999 at 10:20:54:

I don't know about how these machines fared in crops like canola, sunflower, rye, barley, wheat, etc. but for corn and beans in the Midwest and beyond, conventional combines just don't hold a candle to rotaries, so John Deere combines, although comfortable to operate and quite reliable, are not the machine of choice. The best performers I've seen in terms of capacity, cleanliness of sample, reliability, and value are the White 9700 series rotaries and the Gleaner R series. The 9700 Whites had an enormous rotor compared to the CaseIH and earlier IH machines for astounding capacity and separating area. I don't know if they were class 7 or not, but they surely beat any class 6 on the market at the time. I've seen a lot of these used with custom operators for this reason. The Gleaners, especially the current R-72, is unbeatable in beans and especially corn. Because of Gleaner's Natural Flow system, viny crops like beans that are a bit wet don't wrap around the rotor like they will in an axial machine like the CaseIH, New Holland, Massey (which by the way is the White combine because Massey Ferguson purchased the White combine product line from White Farm Equipment in 1986 so now Massey has got a really good rotary combine) and yes, the new John Deere. Yes, I know Deere doesn't want it called a rotary (single tine separation) but it is a rotary. The nomenclature is just Deere's way of claiming to reinvent the wheel when it comes to combines. It seems JD is a little sore that it took them so long to figure out that rotaries have tremendous advantages over conventionals and now they want to fly in saying, "Look at our single tine separation system (rotary), new from the innovators at John Deere." Just like John Deere to try to claim credit for something they didn't pioneer. Certainly credit must be given to conventionals in small grain crops where they come closer to rotaries in performance. John Deere does well here, but Massey Ferguson is an all-time favorite with many custom harvesters for good reason. And the CaseIH and New Holland rotaries both have their strong points but the leaders in corn and beans: Gleaner and WFE (now Massey combines). P.S. I'm sure someone will point out that these two favorites have among the smallest portion of market share in the combine market. All I can say is that sales figures are not necessarily an indication of a machine's ability to perform in the field. Deere's advantage over the others is their numerous dealerships which are important to combine users for rapid parts availability.


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