Re: Cunundrum update

Posted by Billy NY on September 08, 2007 at 06:22:12 from (205.188.117.74):

In Reply to: Cunundrum update posted by Don-Wi on September 08, 2007 at 00:08:26:

It's good to see you have taken the time to consider the merits of both situations, benefits certainly are important, job security, what happens when things get slow etc.

In some respects, I am a firm believer that you can better your salary and benefit package during your career path, as you gain experience, knowledge, confidence and become a valuable asset to your employer, through negotiation.

One of the key things I consider to be important is one you mention, is recognizing a go nowhere type of job, is it possible to advance within the organizational structure of the company, and what are the politics involved to do so. No matter what you do, it is smart to at least know what the culture is like at a company and where you stand as a loyal and productive employee.

Steady income is most important, even if it means longevity with a go nowhere type of job, you just keep your eye out for a better situation, really depends on your local area and what it has to offer, sometimes you have to move to get the job you want with a company that is attractive, which is not for everyone for a variety of reasons, nor is possible for everyone, assuming that to be the case here because of your farm, have to be close by.

As an employee, you are a small business and being diligent about keeping a close eye on things to better your business is nothing any employer should ever hold against any employee, especially one who shows up on time, is loyal, productive and does their part to keep things profitable for the company. If you can better yourself so be it. Like you said though, it's good to keep your prospects in confidence, with yourself, I'd not want that information to get to your current employer by any means, and if you do decide on something, it's good to not burn any bridges, I used to give 1 months notice instead of 2 weeks, in good faith to whomever I worked for and made sure there were no hard feelings, never had any trouble doing that either. Another thing that is important is the experience you get, and how it looks on a resume, it's good to build ones resume with experience that is diverse and that benefits you in value to a company, meaning if you do the same menial tasks day in and day out, that is all you know and can do, so whenever possible it is in ones benefit to get more experience in different areas within the career outline of what you do whenever possible. A well built, well rounded resume is certainly more attractive to an employer and increases your worth.

The thing that bothers me is that these companies today don't seem to retire people, benefits can be real thin, yet the workload, working conditions can be harsh depending on what you do, it is good to know or at least have a reasonable idea, in advance as to what longevity with a company will bring you. I worked for many different companies, advanced to high saleries in the construction industry, but never had any real longevity with a company, (finish a project sometimes means a change in employer) also built a solid resume in the process, and am a capable person in my field, but I look at friends who stayed or tolerated jobs at UPS and other places that are not easy to work, but they have longevity and retirement there vs. being a hired gun like myself. ALso, fair to mention that one never knows what may happen, a company may just fail and everyone is on the street. I worked for a big NY company, same one that built the sears tower, recently new pittsburgh steelers stadium, and major work at JFK airport, they were aquitred by a parent company from the UK, eventually they closed the company, not sure who went on with the parent company. This was a company you could have stayed with and had been around a long time, things change, most went to other companies, but not all, there are only so many jobs in the industry. Just some opinion and or thoughts ont he subject, no preaching here, sounds like you will make a well thought decision, best of luck with it !

PS - I used to get up to Wausau once in awhile to deal with a window manufacturer there, seemed like manufacturing is keeping afloat there.

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