Posted by Janicholson on November 01, 2007 at 19:54:31 from (66.173.50.158):
In Reply to: ot/ please help posted by D17 man on November 01, 2007 at 14:26:12:
These Are my ramblings: John Deere an IHC were competitive in general quality throughout the mid 50s JD had two issues that were bothersome. 1} they used a engine configuration that was not as efficient in RPM, or economy (look it up)and that vibrated in use quite radically. (been there and was numb for hours) 2) the ergonomics of Farmalls was superior. Operator position, seat geometry (as IHC developed)
JD lovers will argue these issues till death but they are what I call facts.
Both took wrong turns in the late fifties early sixties. JD began making some of the best mid HP tractors ever made, but charges too much for them, and the parts. In addition, some equipment and components were fragile and never made better.
IHC had several good tractors but failed to test and fix before selling them and recalls were deadly. When bean counters and investors got into the mix, the old engineers were gone, and the new ones made quality and complexity mistakes. When combined (not in order) with case, Steiger, New Holland, and Mahindra, and shipped tractors of marginal quality with marginal support across oceans, it became second rate. There are CaseIH units that are still very very good, but there is poor support and poor control of small tractor series, and JD can claim the final identity prize. It also has still suffering from Price and quality issues that make Kubota smile all the way to the boardroom. JimN
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