Posted by motorv8N on February 06, 2008 at 13:14:19 from (24.141.47.138):
In Reply to: Beware posted by James Tabor on February 06, 2008 at 05:31:14:
Yeah, either people don't know what "restored" means or there are a whole lot more lying SOBs on this earth than I imagined. Had a very similar experience looking to buy my first tractor. Took the time to learn the 8N checklist referred to in that forum. Even though I'm a tractor novice I got to the point of being able to do a thorough go through including compression testing in about an hour taking my sweet time.
Answered an ad by a guy who was selling two "completely restored" machines -- a 49 and 52. Drove two hours to see them and was blinded by the paint jobs from a hundred feet away. He was content to sit on his porch swing while I worked my way through one tractor, then the other. Turns out they were nothing but paint. Worn brakes, bad hubs, iffy clutches, leaking hydraulics, crumbling rads - - it went on and on. When I challenged him on it, saying these are painted, not restored, he just grinned and shrugged. Then he invited me into his shop and showed me what was a pretty serious setup. Lots of tools, lots of parts, lots of honest grease and oil stains around. He pulled out several photo albums of past restorations that were obviously true, down to the last nut and bolt jobs. He had even been written up in the local paper.
Essentially he told me that all that work often got him no more money that a real good paint job. I couldn't believe what I was hearing. Here's a guy who could obviously do the work and was what we'd all consider to be a "tractor guy" but had come to the conclusion he'd rather just start by being dishonest from the get go and see who might fall for it. AND, he seemed perfectly at peace with himself. No shuffling or sidways glances. No humming, hawing, scratching his head, evading direct questions. He looked me right in the eye the entire time, basically let me call him a liar without batting an eye. Amazing.
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