Re: OT setting poles on concrete piers ????

Posted by jdemaris on February 14, 2008 at 05:31:39 from (72.171.0.140):

In Reply to: Re: OT setting poles on concrete piers ???? posted by massey333 on February 13, 2008 at 14:45:43:

I don't have a "need" to tell anybody anything.
And, if often is not appropriate to tell some people how I really feel about certain matters.
I've been around long enough to question all that I hear, and believe what I see(unless I've been drinking).

With the building trade, I've seen many new methods come and go. Some work well, some fail and lead to law-suits. Same can be said with many structures designed by licensed structural engineers. When our Interstate highway collapsed last year, killing several truckers - the cause was a mistake a structural engineer made. That happens often but don't not always make the headlines. Research the recent failures in bridge collpases, highway overpasses falling down, the "Big Dig" failure in Massachusetts, etc. - all due to engineering mistakes.
In regard to companies that sell overpriced buildings - well duh ... seems to me that are in business to make the most profit possible, and not doing it for altruistic reasons. Subsequently they do not use the best materials, only enough to meet code - unless you specifiy otherwise.
I contacted Morton last year for an estimate for a new barn I needed. What they suggested was crap. I then designed it myself and custom selected all the materials. My version cost a little more, but will be standing long after I'm dead.
Two years ago a new and huge Morton horse barn and indoor-stable got put up near me for some new city people that had just moved in. It collapsed 6 months later when we had two big snowstorms within a week. Several horses got killed and naturally, a law-suit came into play. It was settled before court. That building was built to county code specs at the time that were not adequate for extreme conditions.
A few dollars extra spent on overbuilding would of prevented the problem.
And, your comments about utilitly poles? Come on, that's beyond silly. They are used all over this country and many have lasted well over 50 years - even a few that weren't treated and were only cedar (some might of had some creosote added). In fact, our village kept the original cedar utility poles for historic and ornamental reasons and now have sidewalks poured around them. They were put in before World War II and are still standing.
Again - in regard to you having reverence for anecdotal posts with opposing view-points? I've gotten many private emails about this thread from pole-barn builders and owners who say they agree with me - some with pole-barns that were built 50 years ago.
If you really believe that some power company near you had poles that rotted out in 20 years - tell me about it and provide some real facts. I don't believe it - but would like to investigate it. What power company, when and where?
In regard to what I've mentioned - I'll give you full source citations for all if you want them.

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