Posted by Erik MN on March 08, 2008 at 15:36:16 from (66.41.99.220):
In Reply to: Re: CHEATING IN SCHOOL posted by Walt davies on March 08, 2008 at 12:00:36:
Hello Walt, As a new industrial technology teacher, I feel as though I need to respond to your post as I am sure you would if someone told you that everyone in your profession was failing at what they do and they should all be fired. First of all, I also agree there is a long ways to go before we can be satisfied with the level of education of some students upon leaving school. I also agree that there are many students that have education levels far surpassing previous generations with new options right in the middle/high school (college in school, PSEO, Project Lead The Way, etc.) While I agree completely with the basic math facts idea, they DO need to know them (it is amazing how many students can not read a ruler), there are also many other factors today that were not so in earlier times. However, there are a lot of other factors in todays education system that were not in place in the 40s. We have NCLB being pushed so hard on the whole system that it is almost impossible not to teach to the federal tests without funding the special programs that are also "federally" required. It is not our choice to teach or not teach certain items / programs. In terms of cheating, the students knew if they got in trouble in school, they would be more afraid of what would happen when they got home (like myself - even though I am only 24). Now, if you so much as look at a student wrong let alone accuse them of something such as cheating, we are now the ones that have to deal with the wrath of the parents (which I am not afraid to do). Anyway, lets just think twice before we throw out the whole system. We are doing good things trying to get the students ready for work/college/whatever they choose is the best choice for them, yet there is still a ways to go. If we are ever satisfied, we are not doing our job (in my opinion).
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