"Believe what you want..." "Some of this gloom and doom I hear - is just plain rediculous..." "In regard to the additional gloom-and-doom about CO detectors not working?"
Now, tell me just how you were not directing those comments to my original post since I was the only one that mentioned the above. That is calling me a lair and I don't care what you say. Your intent was to discredit what I stated but not doing so directly at me. Had you been a man about it, we could have discussed it but no you chose to try too sneak that in there hoping I wouldn't make a comment. Well that back fired on you.
Your comment: "There are indeed "ventless" heaters - that because the name implies you don't have to INSTALL a dedicated vent."
This just is a wrong statement. As I stated before, it doesn't matter if you use the room as a vent or you run a direct vent. The unit is ventilated by some means with the room acting as a vent in this case, so it can not be a ventless heater under any event of any wording you choose. The unit is ventilated, PERIOD!
What futher complicates this issue is, that you now have to explain to a child, mother, wife, grandkids or a stranger that in order to use this "ventless" heater you need to make sure there's "fresh" air moving in the room when the unit is turned on. Can you see the drawback to this game plan? A dead child sure would help them to remember the "next" time!
Your comments: "Also - in regard to backing up my statements? For what?"
Because I've down this road before. You only read what you want to read in the installation instructions, as most poeple do, but forget to read the part where they talk about venting the room.
Now once you see that this unit heater needs to be ventilated, then it should tell a person that this unit is going to cost them alot of money to operate vs a using direct vent unit.
From my 38yrs of experience in the HVAC&R industry, I can tell you that a ventless design unit is used with either too much ventilation or not enough ventilation and very very seldom with the correct amount of ventilation. 99% of the time they will be used while being in a under-ventilated state.
Your Comment: "and I don't feel a need to mention any degrees or licenses that might be hanging on my wall (as you already did)"
I'm very proud of those degrees that I have as they took alot of hard work to get them. You bet I took the chance at tooting my own horn as this type of thread always leads to someone who try's to discredit someone else to try and prove a point they can't back up.
I tried to get you to find just one ventless heater to defend your comments but you could not find one as they don't exist!!!
In fact now is a good time to futhure toot some more: A member of following: American Society of Heating Refrigeration and Airconditioning Engineers InDoor Air Quality Engineers Energy Management Engineers AWS CWI (Certified Weld Inspector)
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