Buzzman72 said: (quoted from post at 02:42:07 06/27/08) In these "global economy" days, I'd imagine Honda or Toyota might be a better investment if you're looking for growth...with the Koreans like Hyundai or Kia being a tad riskier, but with higher potential gains. But unless GM and Ford change their mindset and start marketing a better product--more of what the consumer "wants," as opposed to what Detroit says the consumer "needs" to buy--I don't look for the domestic manufacturers to be any kind of great investment for the long term.[/quote:8739d46457]
GM, Ford and Chrysler made exactly what the consumer wanted, large trucks and SUV's, what they didn't plan on was everybody switching back to boring reliable cars in just a couple years... which is what Toyota/Honda are famous for. Factor in the media's love for playing up the "David vs Golith" thing giving tons of free advertisement every time an import comes out on top, and keeping it hush hush when ever they don't and it is no wonder they are in the shape they are.
noncompos said: (quoted from post at 07:44:47 06/27/08) A historical comment: we pretty much won the war by smothering Germany and Japan with production of war material (materiel?)...while a lot of the Japanese army stuff was light, because their people were smaller and they were desperately short of resources, their navy might've been the best in the world...
German stuff was often superior to ours; we just outproduced them, and ground their production down gradually...
That's vastly oversimplified, and not meant to dismiss what we did well, just to say it wasn't a total victory of American technology.
We made Shermans on automobile assembly lines, the Germans generally made their tanks in bulldozer factories. Major difference in technology IMO.
Japanese equipment just was not that well made to compete, they did well at first but once we got on the ball it turned really ugly for them.
[quote:8739d46457]The majority of losses of Shermans were not from battle with other tanks, but rather from mines, aircraft, infantry anti-tank weapons and, on occasion, friendly fire. Although American tanks were less powerful than their German counterparts, US armored forces ultimately triumphed because of numerical superiority, a more consistent supply of fuel and ammunition, and the allied air superiority (with aircraft being the biggest danger to the lines of supply for German tank units).
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