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Re: buy GM,FORD,OR CRYSLER


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Posted by JOB on December 27, 2008 at 08:49:16 from (74.36.130.57):

In Reply to: Re: buy GM,FORD,OR CRYSLER posted by TomTex on December 27, 2008 at 05:32:31:

I can't argue the over paid executives and poor management, I thought there was only one union, the UAW. The skilled trades that work within the plants are all UAW members as far as I know. The crooked unions statement confuses me. Walter Reuther was the first union Boss (international president) of the UAW. That man did not make any more than the highest paid auto worker in the UAW system, at the time that was a GM toolmaker who worked a lot of overtime. The international UAW members are paid comparable to other international union members. Yes the UAW auto plants pay time and a half for overtime, (Federal Law) unlike a lot of employers in the south, and maybe the rest of the nation that will pay straight time for 69 hours of work. As for the over paid workers Henry Ford raised the starvation wage to five dollars a day to stop the high turn over of employees and because the work was monotonous. The company's and union recognize that today. What makes a worker in a Japanese auto plant a real American worker? I have heard that a Japanese auto plant pays more per hour than a US plant, they just don't have the benefits of a UAW worker. Like job security, (they enjoy being fired when they are injured on the job) They don't want a pension, they want to contribute to their own 401K plan, and if they loose their butt on that they always have social security to live happily ever after on. They haven't worked there long enough to think about retirement. What kind of a medical plan does the Japanese give their employees, Is it something like Wal-Marts? The only good management practices I know of is the daily anti-union rallies in the plants, and the smaller cars that naturally get better mileage per gallon than a larger vehicle. Look at Toyota's Tundra, it gets worse miles per gallon that Ford GM and Dodge.
What in the world is IMHO? Ford has the highest quality of any vehicle on the market. If Ford, GM, and Chrysler went bankrupt they would financially ruin hundreds of thousands if not millions of big and small investors. Where are these new factories you want them to move? The last I heard a new factory cost a lot to build. Just to build a paint facility back in 1984 cost one auto maker 350 million. The building is roughly 5 acres in size. I know of a small assembly plant that is 30 acres in size (cost over 1 million to build back in the early 20's) and that does not take into consideration the warehouse and paint facility and other buildings that support the assembly operation. That assembly plant turns out the best quality for their product of any other manufacture, that also includes Japanese. US auto makers are getting wages down. Some people are making 14 dollars an hour, limited medical, no retirement. You could live in Texas on 14 dollars an hour, it is kind of hard to do the same in the north where the weather is much more severe. AND WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD ANYONE WANT TO SUPPORT THE PEOPLE THAT GAVE US DECEMBER SEVENTH 1941? Would you buy anything from our friend Mr. Bin Laden (AKA Mr. 911)? I would not take anything from him as a gift. You seem to have a strong hatred for US companies and blue collar workers.


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