Re: where are all the anti-safety people?

Posted by Billy NY on March 04, 2009 at 14:53:19 from (74.67.3.238):

In Reply to: Re: where are all the anti-safety people? posted by buickanddeere on March 04, 2009 at 12:08:08:

B&D, not to judge, or get personal, insulting etc., but being slightly critical at times, do you realize you come across pretty darned abrasive to others around here ??? Now I realize personalities differ by the person, and it's good to have thick skin, as well as all the variety people who take the time to contribute here, help or what have you, place would not be the same without it. I dunno, but sheesh, lighten up dude or something :) LOL ! I think you made some good points, but the way you come across, dang man... maybe you just like ruffling feathers LOL !

I think the point of the original poster was to remind people of safety, and or start a thread on reminding people of same, you know like a tool box meeting etc. which are always a good thing no matter who you are. I for one am all about that, was a big part of my career, and when you have 60 + ironworkers to look after or are on a big site job, some of the things I have done in the past, safety is #1 at all times, anyone who violates those rules is terminated, and I have terminated plenty who disagreed, when in a supervisory capacity on a site. There is a protocol, and you will always find some who disagree, I canned the best welder I had on one site, he would not tie off his lanyard in a basket on a lift he was working from, argued, tried some union crap over it, I knew his delegate and B.A. I made an example out of him myself, usually left the weeding out to my foremen, not this time, safety is the #1 concern.

I've spent a lot of time on and around equipment, I also have a technical background and I certainly understand what and why a r.o.p.s and other safety devices are designed for, what the purpose is, and how they work. I have seen the OSHA files on deaths and injuries and am aware of the studies and all the rest, all good material to read and learn from. ROPS is engineered to displace the load it must carry in a turnover, has to be coordinated into the design of the tractor to fully displace the load, so if you put a ROPS on an old tractor, that did not have anywhere to make connections strong enough to meet the load requirements it will fail, a real easy thing to explain to someone, you must make sure all components of the system are checked, analyzed and calculated to work for the given loads of the specific model or type of equipment it is to be installed on, the installation must be as called for exactly by the engineer, or it could fail. Might be obvious to some with technical backgrounds, but not for others, good reason for discussion here, could save someone.

No one person is infallible when it comes to these situations with equipment, and I agree, if you are tired, fatigued, influenced by drugs/alcohol, distracted, or otherwise un-attentive towards a hazard, good chance you could get injured or killed, same is true for a hasty decision when it comes to any kind of equipment, even the master operator who has been at it for 50 years can and will get caught by a hazard if not paying attention and concentrating on what they are doing, I saw a video over on the ACMOC site, where a member from Australia came to visit CA, he was running a D8 tractor, the first thing I noticed was he failed to look back when in reverse, this guy is a lifetime operator, seemingly very experienced and excellent contributor to that site, but I would not be afraid to comment on what I saw, and I bet he would agree. I've spent plenty of time on those big tractors, had a foreman drill that into our heads daily, always look back when in reverse, check to make sure no one is there, never forgot that, it still does not make you immune to hazards.

When using older equipment, without the safety features, you are at risk, every time you use it, you can't become complacent or distracted, there is a certain discipline that goes with older equipment, does not make you any safer, but if you operate within the limitations of what it is designed to do, and don't push the narrow limits of the safety margin you do have, no matter what it is you are operating, you'll be fine, sure it does not take much to create a hazardous situation, you must keep all the safety devices in place, and maintain them, they are important, nothing is infallible, all depends on how you handle it, safety starts with you first.

Again, good topic here anytime, (in my humble opinion) staying focused on safety at all times is very important to ones well being.

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