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Re: The United Nations bans guns


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Posted by Clodbuster on April 09, 2009 at 10:57:05 from (66.146.251.103):

In Reply to: Re: The United Nations bans guns posted by MarkB_MI on April 09, 2009 at 08:36:42:

I don't have the source at hand but do remember reading it or hearing it from a good source. I may search for it later. I may be mistaken and it is more related to going in to a port. Just like a cruise ship, most are not under our country's flag to avoid labor and tax laws.

The article you link to is a good one and it leaves the details of the matter open to interpretation. I do look at the goal of the person being interviewed in your article. He is with a company that gets hired to be the security force. They don't want the crew to take over the service they are trying to sell.

I sure don't take arming the crew lightly. It is as serious as it gets. When all other means of protecting a ship and its crew are up for debate, why are firearms almost totally excluded? It is within my reasoning that if you can be spraying the pirates with a firehose, you are within their range to shoot you. I don't discount the high pressure water as useful, just not the only option.


"Yes, the cavalry are there and will spring into action, but they might not be able to come to the rescue because they continue to hampered by outdated legislation, UN Mandates and international laws of the sea."

"The use of arms is a grey area. There is no set of clear legal rules laid down by the UN regarding protection against pirates and so the experience that any private maritime security company can draw on when providing protection is paramount. "

This whole matter reminds me of the politics of law enforcement. You are only to dial 911 and do whatever the bad guy tells you, no matter what. When you talk to rank and file officers, that opinion has much less endorsement.

Until the taking of ships becomes very dangerous, very painful, and without reward, it will only get worse.


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