They can be had w joysticks. I like the speed management feature. Buy the extended warranty on any joystick machine--they are expensive to fix and they have a habit of acting up (any brand).
Bobcat is HUNGRY right now. I did a trade this summer for $9500 less than the same trade was quoted last fall. They are also dealing as they have new models coming out.
I drove one of the all-new Bobcats yesterday. Fancier cab, but only a little quieter--hardly noticeable from my 2009 S-205 with the sound reduction package.
If you find a dealer that has one in stock that the floor plan has or is about to expire(meaning they have to pay Bobcat corp for the machine), they will really deal. That's what I did. $4000 less than other dealers that would have ordered it in. When it is in stock and they have to pay for it, they will deal.
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