Posted by ScottyHOMEy on November 14, 2009 at 05:47:22 from (64.222.246.143):
In Reply to: Re: DOT and farmers posted by barn E on November 13, 2009 at 20:36:27:
That's a common one. The rules get misunderstood two ways.
On a large dump truck that requires a Class B CDL (because it's rated over 26k), a driver can pull a trailer (like a compressor or a tarpot) as long as it's rated under 10k.
The other misconception is that any trailer over 10k requires a CDL. That is true only if the combined weight ratings of the tow vehicle and trailer exceed 26k, in which case a Class A CDL is required.
Where all of this "enforcement" gets irksome is that many departments are bringing in consultants to "train" these officers in clever ways to construe almost anything as operating in commerce, so that if you are over 10k you need a DOT number. A 1'2-ton pickup with a modes 7k trailer is suspeect whether loaded or not. Some states, specifically exclude things like trophies or ribbons won at a tractor show, but others do not and the diesel bears will call that trophy "compensation", whether you won one or not (it is the potential for compensation, whether it's for a profit or a loss, they'll tell you -- those consultants again) and write you up for non-compliance with every little picayune item they've been trained to detect. Had one say that he would red-tag such a rig for failure to carry adequate insurance ($1 million in liability coverage is required.)
What you wind up with is a bunch of officers out on the road writing tickets and red-tagging vehicles on the basis of sketchy, at best, applications and interpretations of rules, when as, in your son's case, they don't have a grasp of the most basic straightforward rules.
And compliance is almost impossible. As someone noted in a post just below, you can inquire of DMV, DOT, or ask any three DOT bears, and you will get five different, conflicting, answers to your question.
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