Re: New Holland Skidsteer

Posted by 135 Fan on December 21, 2009 at 12:39:51 from (68.149.56.30):

In Reply to: Re: New Holland Skidsteer posted by Good grief on December 21, 2009 at 05:15:07:

First off I don't need to use 42 different names on my posts. Any skid steer will tip over if you overload it. Compare apples to apples as in rated lift capacity. Funny you mention pallets of sod. A longer wheel base machine with a heavier load of sod is going to be extremely difficult to avoid severely tearing up the ground. Longer wheel base machines are better for lifting heavy objects and can go faster in transport but compare the weight to operating capacity of a NH machine versus a Bobcat for example. A lower operating capacity Bobcat will weigh more than a higher capacity NH. I have heard some people in the industry explain that a New Holland skid steer is more of a farm duty machine, while a Case, Bobcat, Mustang, Cat,new JD or Thomas is more of an industrial duty machine. This makes sense since NH is a farm machinery manufacturer. For lifting bales and cleaning corrals and such, they will do a good job. However, you don't find too many commercial operators using them in construction type applications because they have had structural problems in the frames and booms. It's like the difference between a farm tractor with a loader and an industrial tractor with a loader. A farm loader will do a lot of work but start using it like an industrial loader and you'll have problems sooner, rather than later.
As far as tipping a skid steer, I can pick up the bucket and spin donuts with the back of the machine on the ground, with little fear of tipping over. Tipping forward, which I've done a couple times, is a scary experience and you better have your wits about you. Usually you'll only tip with the bucket over highway up and if you suddenly lower the boom in a hurry, you'll be knocked around pretty good and could even be catapulted out of the machine. That's why seat bars are a good idea in addition to seat belts.
Everyone is open to their opinions on skid steers but when someone asks about them, I think it's good to let them have as much info as possible on the differences between machines as well as the pro's and con's of each type. I have a Thomas T133, which is a smaller frame than the 173's and up, and it has very good visiblity and maneuvarabilty which is important for landscaping and work in tight quarters. It's not a perfect machine and I've had to do some repairs on it but overall it's been a very good machine. Thomas' come with a 5 year main frame warranty and I've never heard of one ever needing the frame repaired or welded. I've seen some booms get twisted and problems from people not greasing them but I think all skid steers are subject to extreme abuse in the hands of poor operators. Like I said previously, if I had to buy a new machine, it would be a tough choice. I don't think I'd buy a Thomas again. Not because I wasn't happy with the one I have but because Thomas has changed hands a couple of times and their dealer support and service has gone way downhill. I want a machine with good parts support and experienced people to help me when I've got a problem. Dave

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