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Re: Cost of self employement plus...


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Posted by trucker40 on January 18, 2010 at 08:42:44 from (69.151.61.108):

In Reply to: Cost of self employement plus... posted by NCWayne on January 17, 2010 at 17:55:59:

One problem is that people are gutless.If they work someplace and then the wheels bring in a college kid and pay him half as much they should shut the place down.In order for things to work good and get loyalty from people you have to treat them good and be loyal to them.

So on one hand a bunch of you say that we people that work somewhere have to be a little mouse and if they kick us around they are entitled to do that.Why did you grow up in America and ever think like that?

You cant get 2 people out of a hundred to stand up.Well thats why there needs to be a Union.If not a union a walkout by all of the workers.Yeah that will happen!

I actually think people nowdays dont like unions because they are ignorant.Another big thing is that there are so many people that will stab you in the back that that is just one more equalizer they dont have to deal with so they will always be against unions.They will lie and do just about anything to climb over you to get what they think is somewhere by doing it.If people want to stand up,they have to have leverage.Pictures of the CEO with a hooker on the front of a newspaper or a union is about all I can think of.

Unions are for when things are going good.By being spineless,people have allowed this corporate welfare mentality to get out of hand.

This world economy crap is just that.We will never be able to compete with slave wages unless we are slaves too.

To fix this we will have to stand up to them.Every time the people stand up the crooks back up.Maybe kind of like a strike only far worse.

Just shut them down.No work for a couple of months.I bet when they dont get any money from workers in the United States they will get a whole lot better to get along with.It will get a whole lot more regional then.

Also most of the problem is high fuel prices.We should blockade the fuel terminals until the price comes down or just take them over.Thats probably the best thing because as long as the crooks have them they can ruin us.

All big corporations need to be broken up into smaller companies.I dont even care what excuse is given,if it wants to operate any more it will be broken up and thats all there is to it.This monopoly crap has gone on way too long.That also means oil companies they are first on the list.

Everybody has a boss.If there is some jerk down the line treating the help bad,and then there is a walkout or shutdown,somebody is going to get a phone call and that jerk will be fired probably.If the walkout is over that thing,then there should be a phone call to the owners stating what the jerk did and that he needs to be fired for things to get back to normal.You never know what might happen until you tell your side of the story or ask somebody.

Companies that wont treat their help right need to go anyway.Anything you have thats worth fighting for,you better figure out a way to fight for it.Big companies wont get any better until they are forced to.

Now that might be a little strong for some to deal with.Yeah well what has giving in got us?This mess right here.I know when you are on the bottom it seems like you dont have any power,and you dont.The only power you have is numbers and then only if you stick together.As long as you give in,they will take more from you.

Just like the example of the dealer doubling the bill.The people that set behind a desk are legal thieves.Thats one reason I quit being a mechanic.It gets disgusting after a while.A mechanic does all of the work,buys the tools and has the heat and cold and gets beat up,and some bunch setting behind a desk warm in winter cool in summer gets the money.The big wheels dont want to pay a mechanic any more than they can get away with.Then they run around in suits and new cars like they are better than everybody else.

There is no kind of business that I can think of thats any different.Farming,construction,even running a store,somebody else up the chain is diverting most of the money in to their bank and the man working and taking all the risk is just barely getting by and working more than 3 other people.

I have been wondering ever since the 1970s how long we would put up with this.I guess until we are all slaves,I dont know.Ive walked picket lines before and its not fun,but its way better than getting screwed over.I dont know what people not in a union could do other than just walk out,and they could get fired.Not everybody would walk out.Most people dont have any savings so they wont want to do anything.

One thing just occurred to me.There could be a work slowdown.Go to work but just go gradually slower and slower until it starts hurting them in their pocket.Problem with that is they would mistreat the good employers and not hurt the bad ones.The bad ones might be too stupid to notice.


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