Thanks for the ideas. I just wanted to know what works in real life not a salesman's pitch. I still have one ritchie and it will freeze. One mirafount it may get enough ice that you need to break it with your foot, maybe half a dozen times a year. one concrete and one tire water tanks,never a problem but of course they are below ponds and one stock tank that I break and pitch the ice out of. I will dig down and put in a plastic culvert pipe around vertical water line before I install the new waterer. I am also going to check on the Cobbet water, I like family operations, and the behlen water, I also like over kill.
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