Re: OT/one at a time

Posted by RN on April 10, 2010 at 11:21:59 from (216.170.165.154):

In Reply to: Re: OT/one at a time posted by tlak on April 10, 2010 at 08:10:31:

More people killed by drunk drivers than dopers ?? Statistics to back it?? Would be nice- nearest I can recall locally was the traffic death coroners tox report requirements in Wisconsin and some related arrest test reports- about 30% of single vehicle crash deaths had drunk limit exceeded, 10-15% had indications of drugs but limits not defined- 10% had Mary Jane and 5% had opiates or coke. Another 10% had both drugs and alcohal. On the deaths due to others cause- as in the drunk hit and killed someone else- the arrest reports show about 50% alcohal and 30% dope indication, sometimes both. arrest testing is noted to be not complete- arrestee that refuses testing doesn"t get counted as drunk or drugged. Arrestee that was also injured gets blood draw at ER and results can be checked and counted in statistics and later presentance reports even if results are suppressed for a trial. These get noted in the about 50% drunks and doped. The other 50% gets speed, lack of experience, mechanical failure and weather/road conditions including a few deer crashs blamed as cause of fatal accident. Non Fatal accidents may get a blood draw- but the reporting requirement was mainly concerned with deaths and these figures were 1998 to 2003 5 year history. Milwaukee area was reporting higher coke, opiates than state average, Madison had some more grass incidents as well as high alcohal numbers- partial blamed on college students. Wisconsin has drunks in government- like DA, state legislature that just missed being expelled, lieutenant governor pulled out of ditch drunk. Madison had a police incident when police officer investigating grass burning smell in upstairs of restaurant turned around when she recognized local council members- her report indicated she felt arrest would be squashed and deferred to superior who also said they were offlimits- figures. So-- the reports are indicating twice as many drunk caused deaths as dope caused deaths- but figures are noted to not be complete and dope tests were just starting, rates were going up the last 2 years 2002, 2003 as compared to first couple years as testing materials and protocols were being established. of the 400+deaths 2002/2003 that would be 100 deaths due to drunks, 50 due to drugs only, another 25 combination, another 25 suspected but incompleted tests (10-20% late test, suppressed, complete test not available- report says allow 10% margin of error minimum). Deer get blamed for 6 deaths, 45 injuries requiring at least overnight hospital stay. A few deer caused deaths/injuries have a stoned driver failed to respond to deer contributing factor noted. RN

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