I know that, but a lot of the pole barn kits include sackrete to be used as the cookie. Lot of them in this area get poured in dry and built on. Same with decks, in a few years, the post pierce the sackrete and sink. We're not allowed to use cookies/ precast in my county any more. They were banned about 10 years ago.
Most builders in this area don't concrete around the posts as it tends to rot the posts (even treated) as water will get between the post and the concrete. If the post are below frost line, they typically won't heave.
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