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Permanent magnet starters


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Posted by teddy52food on May 27, 2010 at 07:25:33 from (209.237.115.177):

I don't know if they are using PM starters in the big tractors but I know they are used on the smaller riding lawn mowers etc. In our last discussion we learned that the magnetic field of a PM comes from the atoms of the material( E=MC squared) & not from the imput wattage used to charge the PM. Here's the proof. Even Jim J in a round about way said that a PM starter is more efficient than one with field windings. Lets say it takes an average of 3000 watts to start an engine with a conventional starter. Lets say that a pm starter is (I will be conserveitive)(sp) is 1% more efficient. So It would use 30 watts less to do the same job. Now if the energy was coming from the imput wattage it would have to deplete that power by 30 watts every time the starter was used. You don't get something from nothing. So how many starts would you get? If we used 2000 watts to charge the magnets we would divide 30 into 2000 and get only 66.66 starts! So we are harnessing energy from E=MC squared on a daily basis without knowing it. I also pointed out some time ago that the heater motors of the 60's had wound field coils and were fused at a greater amperage than the motors using PM of today. You don't get some thing from nothing but from E=MC squared. As the atoms of the material release that energy, it is done on a 100 % basis . There are no friction losses to account for. If you can understand this, why is it so hard to understand what the Energy Machine Of Joe Newman is doing? Some time ago B&D and others said PM are like springs & you only get back what you put into them. That is true if you just put them together & pull them apart. It is like pushing a fishing bobber down in the water & it will pop back up again. But if you put a water wheel in that river water you can harness that energy. That is all Joe Newman's machine is doing. B&D also felt he had a hidden energy scource. Well would you like to hear that he does. The source is the atoms of the copper coil and permanent magnet. We can't see them as individual atoms so yes I guess you could say they are hidden. I posted 2 links to 2 men that tested Joe's machine that said the out put was greater than the imput. It got bashed as BS. If you are saying that the above is BS than I feel sorry for you. I don't know much but I try to use enough common sense to get by with what little I know. When I see something (Joe's machine) working and can understand how and why it works, it is very hard to convince me otherwise. Open your mind. This is for real! I found it interesting that nobody challenged Joe's teaching about how the current knows which way to go when induced into a wire or how PM attract and repell. Maybe it is because it it not to be found in conventional teaching. Joe is a college drop out because he had questions in his mind that were not answered in conventional teaching. He went on teaching himself to get the answers. In his book, he has gone way beyond conventional teaching about magnets etc. Hold the bashing. It doesn't hurt me & does no good. I thank the moderators for the priviledge to post.


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