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: : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : Me and my grandpa bought a farmall m off an old man and the engine is locked down. If you have any suggestions please let me know. : : : : : : : : : : : : : I have a 1946 M and the starter will lock on it every now and then. I will go to start it and just get a click. I have to loosen the starter off, move it around untill it disingages and I can push it back into place, tighten it up and then the tractor will start right up. Try taking the starter off and seeing if it the engine will turn over by hand or tow, if not it could be another problem if the tractor was left outside much but try that first and let us know, good luck. : : : : : : : : : : : : Take out the spark plugs and fill the cylinders with : : : : : : : : : : : : Marvel Mystery Oil and let it soak for about a week. : : : : : : : : : : : : After a week, put the tractor in high gear and rock : : : : : : : : : : : : it back and forth gently by rolling the back tires. : : : : : : : : : : : : this may free it up if it has internal rust. : : : : : : : : : : : You are fortunate to have had this happen early on so you don't assume a red tractor to be reliable. Park it now and buy something green. Actually we had quite a discussion on Miracle Cures and stuck engines. You may want to review our theraputic group's minutes a little further down. Enjoy, Me : : : : : : : : : : do you do anything but set in front of the computor? You aways have a smart remark, get a life and a decent tractor(RED)!!!!!!! : : : : : : : : : Actually, I'm a middle school counselor with a computer on my desk, and before and after school I don't have a lot of students to counsel so I spend a bit of time knocking red tractors. I'll probably spend the better part of the summer away from school (I hope) diddling around on a few acres so I have to get my shots in while I can. And I do have a pair of decent tractors, they're green, Me : : : : : : : : Well, let me throw in my two cents! (I'm a junior-high school teacher that checks this website during lunch time on most days.) The big advantage to green tractors is that they can hide in the grass when the red ones go by. : : : : : : : OK I check it during lunch too... I figured some were painted red so you could find them in the overgrown fields. touche! : : : : : : : : : : : : Stay with the Farmall you will get it going. If you should ever start to weaken remember that there is only one thing worse than looking at a John Deere and that's listening to one run . : : : : : Time out, I would like to know if the M is free. If it is then I'll knock it some more. Me : : : : : : : : Indian guy you sound to me like you dont have a clue what you are talkin about and if i posted an article about people who dont have a clue about tractors i would want you to be the first to reply. : : : This kind of got my dander up and so I'll get a serious reply up. : : : Micah, By now you may have ascertained that the pistons have jammed in the cylinders beacause of rust accumulation or some other malady. It is not uncommon for this to happen. There are times when mice or other critters make their homes in machinery and drag crap into the exhaust but I don't think this is the case. I have seen a couple of instances where flying insects have made their homes in engines and gun barrels. This may be a remote possibility. The most common cause of engines locking up is for them to rust solid. This can be cured by soaking the parts in light oil or other solvents. This will probably free up the pistons and allow them to work enough for the engine to run. One of the problems associated with this is that if there was enough rust that the metal may have pitted and you will loose cylinder pressure on the compression stroke and exhaaust gasses will vent into the crankcase during combustion and this will lessen the power available because the pressure in the crankcase will resist the downward movement of the pistons while the engine is running. It will also tend to blow oil out of every oriface and past weak (old)_ seals. The corrosion, if wiped off the cylinder walls, will clog oil passages resulting in premature wear from lack of lubricant or outright oil starvation. This will result in a premature death of the tractor. If the cylinder walls area scored from rust dragging down the cylinder walls they will also loose pressure. The only real fix for a siezed engine is a complete tear down, boring the block, "boiling" it to clean it, brushing every crack & oil gallery clean, magnifluxing the block to check for cracks, and finish honing the bores along with gapping the rings and all the other regular stuff that goes with rebuilding an engine. I don't know if IH engines can be sleeeved instead of bored, you will have to do your research on that. Were I you, I would pull the head to check the damage, a set of gaskets is not that expensive compared to the whole rebuild and knowing where you start is a lot smarter than trying to work backwards and screw it up. Sorry for the length of this reply, but like you say, I know nothing. Me : : Sorry for the crude comments! I knew that you were a guy who knew what he was talking about and I knew that you were aware of the causes and a good way to fix them. I thought insulting your intelligence might be the only way to obtain the information. I should probaly have just come out and ask you for your honest opinion. Well for what its worth thanks for the help and i am going to try out some of your ideas. I will tell you how they work out. Once agin i appologise! : : Sometimes these exchanges can be quite amusing, sometimes not. Well let me put my two cents worth in. What everyone seems to be trying to say is to check the simple things before you do anything expensive. It is a lesson I have had to learn the hard way. Check for stuck starter and clutch. A friend bought a stuck Super A with a rock wedged in the crankshaft pulley. Just check all possible several times. Then if the engine is truly stuck, soak in the lube of your choice and wait. And engines will stick when run sufficiently hot, without oil, or with the gas "sugared", but I hope that is not your problem.

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