Posted by NY 986 on December 07, 2010 at 08:35:16 from (69.171.163.205):
In Reply to: Re: Dec. 7, 1941 posted by El Toro on December 07, 2010 at 07:50:37:
I don't get what you mean by kicking the German's butt now versus later. Germany was down pretty bad at the end of WWI and the severe reparation terms set that nation on course to allow a nut to become their leader. I've studied enough European history to know that the "Do as I say and not as I do" policy by France, Great Britain, and Russia prior to the 20th century helped set that stage for what unfolded in the 20th century. Today, certain immigration issues aside, Germany stands as a bulwark against more extreme political elements in Eastern Europe and the Middle East. Germany has shored up Greece's finances and most likely will do so with other members of the EU that if it did not happen it would seriously destabilize Europe. I agree about Billy Mitchell in terms of the military and congress in general being naive but I am convinced FDR and his cabinet knew exactly what they were doing. FDR knew he had to get the US involved in Europe within the first few years that war broke out in Europe or the war would be a hopeless proposition for the Allies. He knew from his ambassador to Japan that there was a way to goad the Japanese into war so in turn he could declare war against the entire Axis alliance. The means to set the Japanese off was to move the Pacific Fleet from its traditional station at San Diego to new station at Hawaii. The Japanese were still incensed at the Raw Materials embargo placed on them during the late 1930's and would consider the fleet move as a hostile action. The attack probably would have come sooner but the Japanese were still trying to solve their raw material issues as late as the fall of 1941. It has been debated whether FDR was hoping for a general strike in Asia versus an attack on US territory but love or hate FDR I don't think he was hoping for the severe loss at Pearl Harbor.
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