I may have a tad more information on your exact location so what Im including here is very location specific. As to thorn in this part of the world, good luck. About the only thing I've found to do a decent job is cold steel, every year. Hawthorn and Eastern Red Cedar are the normal native species on these hills. More adapted than grasses.
As to Tordon products, sale or use is prohibited in Kentucky except for the RTU formulation due to its extreme mobility, long residual, and toxicity to tobacco in microscopic amounts over many years.
Of the product choices, I've found 2,4-D products to be inadequate, banvel to be too expensive, and both Crossbow and Pastureguard to be both too expensive and inadequate. Mowing is also essential to control tall fescue seed heads which contribute to pinkeye. Annual or twice annual mowing will keep cedar and hawthorne in check as well as control fescue seed heads.
I much prefer clovers in pastures. You get both the nitrogen from the clover and the added benefits of reduced fescue toxicity. Nitrogen will boost yields, at rates up to 100 pounds acutal per acre. Everyone has a different break even on rate and cost as the yield curve increases at a decreasing rate. The first 50 pounds give you the most bang for your buck. But, if you dont need the extra yield for pasture or hay in May and June then its just wasted money. Its usually a better option to think about the gap where fescue goes dormant. Sudan grasses, grazing corn, alfalfa, etc all have the potential to keep forage production constant into the slump period.
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