Posted by 135 Fan on February 05, 2011 at 23:05:56 from (68.149.56.30):
In Reply to: Skid steer posted by rst277 on February 05, 2011 at 16:37:52:
I had probably the last Thomas 1220 built with a 4 cylinder Ford engine. It was a 1982. The new T133 to replace it was just coming on the market but the gas utility company that originally purchased it wanted a gas engine and the gas version of the 133(T132) wasn't available yet. It was an OK machine but not the easiset to work on. It was hydrostatic and had good pushing power. The hydrostats were quite noisy though(common on older machines). I purchased a new T133 in 94. The old 1220 was kind of a crude machine but was built strong. The Bobcat M610 isn't hydrostatic and I think uses a 2 speed clutch with belts on each side to turn. They were very popular in the late 60's/early 70's before Bobcat went to hydrostatic drive. I don't know much about the Gehl 4400. I'd find out if it's hydrostatic and see if parts are still available. Thomas was pretty good when McCain owned them but they've gone through a couple owners since then and their popularity went way downhill. They are still in business and most of the components are common manufacturers but would still be good to check on parts availability for a 1200. I'd take a Ford liquid cooled engine over a Wisconsin and a hydrostatic transmission over mechanical drive with belts. If you upped your budget a bit, you could get quite a bit better of a machine. I've seen T133 Thomas' on the net that sold in your your price range. Other machines to look at would be Bobcat 722, 632, 732, 743, 825, 843 etc. I would pass on an M610, due to it being really obsolete with not too many mechanics around that know how to fix them, but would look at older hydrostatic Bobcat models. You would be $$$ ahead to pay a mechanic or take a machine to a dealer to have it checked out before purchasing. I had to put a new wheel motor in my machine(the seal developed a leak into the chain case and I didn't notice it for a while, which I think ruined the internals of the motor) and with labour cost $2600! I was originally told the labour to R&R the wheel motor was around $500 but when I went to pay the bill, it was $1000! This was the new Thomas dealer that was mostly a Kubota dealer. I will not spend another dime there as I have heard other stories similar to mine. Hope this helps. Dave
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