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Gary in TX

01-14-2007 08:32:48




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Buy ya a good John Deere and you won't have to worry about a TA.




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RustyFarmall

01-14-2007 11:30:00




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 Re: TA in reply to Gary in TX, 01-14-2007 08:32:48  
John Deeres answer to the TA was the powershift, which was a direct decendent of the select-o-speed used in Fords. Ford gave up on it and mother Deere snatched it up. Deere lovers also think the roll-a-matic was quite the innovation, but did you know that the roll-a-matic was first marketed to IH?
The International Harvester boys installed a few of them on Farmall Bs for testing purposes, and quickly realized there was absolutely no advantage to the Rube Goldberg-like contraption, so they sent the inventor on down the road.

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Bob

01-14-2007 12:45:09




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 Re: TA in reply to RustyFarmall, 01-14-2007 11:30:00  
We always hear the Deere powershift was based on the Select-o-speed. This MAY be true, but there is NO comparison.

There were a couple of BANDS used in the Ford. The Deere version had only multiple disc wet clutch and brake packs.

And the Deere version is TOUGH. It's almost unheard of for a 4020 PS to fail. I know, I have one I try to "kill" everytime I move snow with it!



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RustyFarmall

01-14-2007 12:56:54




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 Re: TA in reply to Bob, 01-14-2007 12:45:09  
I've been around a couple of those powershifts that had been killed. Don't know what kind of abuse or lack of maintenance they had been exposed to. Probably was done by the same folks who know how to wreck a "wrecking bar".

Nevertheless, the powershift was not a John Deere innovation.



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Bob

01-14-2007 14:48:26




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 Re: TA in reply to RustyFarmall, 01-14-2007 12:56:54  
I never said the 4020 powershift was a DEERE innovation, just that it has very little in common with the Select-o-speed design.

What the heck... neither Ford nor Deere really had to come up with anything NEW for their powershifts... auto trannies in cars were "old hat" by then, and the tractor powershifts are VERY similar to car trannies, minus the torque convertors and automatic shift features.

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tn terry t

01-14-2007 11:18:55




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 Re: TA in reply to Gary in TX, 01-14-2007 08:32:48  
a good john deere ????? ?????



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City-Boy McCoy

01-14-2007 10:31:08




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 Re: TA in reply to Gary in TX, 01-14-2007 08:32:48  
Sometimes it is more interesting to not follow the crowd....



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Ken McCubbin

01-14-2007 08:54:45




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 Re: TA in reply to Gary in TX, 01-14-2007 08:32:48  
not much cheap JD hp out there



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