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Bern

06-10-2007 07:50:58




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I can't find the pics you're talking about. I only saw the one of the two tractors back to back. Can you post a link of the others?




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RodInNS

06-10-2007 08:45:01




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 Re: Pics in reply to Bern, 06-10-2007 07:50:58  
This should do it...



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Bern

06-10-2007 12:05:53




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 Re: Pics in reply to RodInNS, 06-10-2007 08:45:01  
You likely overtorqued the bolt with a 6 foot cheater pipe. Did the bolt break, or simply come loose?

From the pic that I saw, I wouldn't worry about the worn spot in the case. As long as the bearing race is tight, that is the main thing.



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RodInNS

06-10-2007 14:09:31




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 Re: Pics in reply to Bern, 06-10-2007 12:05:53  
Yes, the bolt broke. Must have been way too tight. I was trying to guauge roughly how much force I put on it... but that's never an exact thing....
It doesn't look like there's any other damage though. I've got it apart now and the carrier looks fine. There is some damage to the splines on the shaft where they rode on the housing as the shaft came out, but that's just the end, and I think they'll file out OK. Strangely, the inner race of the bearing moved, and that's what actually did the damage to the housing. I don't think it spun, although I didn't pull it off yet. This is looking like just a set of bearings, a bolt, a lock tab and new seals. It did chew the lock tab pretty good.... Again, thanks for the help.

Rod

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awhtx

06-11-2007 03:25:54




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 230 lbs. applied 6 ft. from the bolt = 1380 ft/lbs in reply to RodInNS, 06-10-2007 14:09:31  
I guess that bolt was way overtorqued! This time use a 2 ft. cheater.



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Bern

06-11-2007 08:02:16




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 Re: 230 lbs. applied 6 ft. from the bolt = 1380 ft in reply to awhtx, 06-11-2007 03:25:54  
He didn't say that he was applying his full body weight to it. He couldn't have the way it was sitting. If he had gotten that kind of torque to it, he would have broken the bolt right then and there. Then he wouldn't have had the accident.



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RodInNS

06-11-2007 08:24:27




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 Re: 230 lbs. applied 6 ft. from the bolt = 1380 ft in reply to Bern, 06-11-2007 08:02:16  
You're right Bern. I was aiming for more like 50 pounds on it, which you well know is more than difficult enough on that thing. But... if I ended up at 75 pounds, then it was still way over torqued at 450. The other thing I didn't do at the time, and should have, was check the end play. If I had I might have found the bearings slack then. They looked OK, and I didn't change anything else other than the seal, so I just didn't bother. Paying for it now.... This is looking like a 500 buck adventure for bearings, cups, seal and shims.

Anothe question.... The diff preload. The good book is showing that a bridge is required to measure the clearance and set this preload. Is there any other practical method for this? Needless to say, I don't have the special tool. I just talked with the parts manager... and he's going to check with the service manager, and they will lend/rent or something, but it's still a pain/expense. They're about 300 miles away. Just wondering what you did with them over the years.
Thanks again,

Rod

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Bern

06-11-2007 14:21:41




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 Re: 230 lbs. applied 6 ft. from the bolt = 1380 ft in reply to RodInNS, 06-11-2007 08:24:27  
Never once shimmed a diff in those tractors in my 15 plus years of working on them. Never had to because they never went out. Unless you're changing housings, I'd simply use the shims that were in it. Bearings are manufactured with tolerances close enough that it doesn't matter.



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