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Larry NCKS

02-27-2008 17:37:06




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soundguy said: (quoted from post at 18:42:18 02/27/08) My point was that if it is an SOS.. and it is just freewheeling.... it won't ever stop as it has no break..

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As they say it makes not the least bit of difference whether a 5000 is sweet SOS or an old gear grinder. The PTO is not part of the transmission on either of these tractors. The PTO in a 5000 SOS does, therefore, have a brake. We only hope it has no break other than a worn brake band.

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souNdguy

02-28-2008 07:37:09




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 Re: I'm gonna join Rod and Rick in reply to Larry NCKS, 02-27-2008 17:37:06  
As i was asking Rick.. is this limited to the 5000, or was there a specific time or model change where all the SOS picked up a brake?

Obviously I am wrong in the prev post..but would like to get up to speed on what models / time periods did / din't have the brake. Is it limited to the dash/pull pto's on the 01 series? etc.

thanks to you guys for setting me straight.

soundguy



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RodInNS

02-28-2008 10:18:14




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 Re: I'm gonna join Rod and Rick in reply to souNdguy, 02-28-2008 07:37:09  
This is limited to the 5000. All other S-O-S tractors so far as I'm aware had the PTO clutch within the transmission, and all of those tractors also had a straight through drive line output with the PTO output on the bottom. The 5000, and indeed all 4 cylinder transmissions from 65 forward had the driveline output on the bottom with the entire gearset being inverted in the transmission (at least the S-O-S). This allowed for a straight through PTO shaft on these transmissions. The PTO's live power was taken internally through the transmissions input shaft from a drive hub bolted to the flywheel. The same arrangement was use on S-O-S tractors as was used on gear tractors, so essentially the same rear axle and it's components were used...

Rod

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soundguy

02-28-2008 11:04:19




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 Re: I'm gonna join Rod and Rick in reply to RodInNS, 02-28-2008 10:18:14  
Interesting.. so then, presumably this could have been done as a cost cutting measure actually.. IE.. only 1 type of rear end to build instead of a dedicated rear for the 5000 SOS and another rear for the 5000 gear?

thanks for the info.

soundguy



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RodInNS

02-28-2008 14:03:25




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 Re: I'm gonna join Rod and Rick in reply to soundguy, 02-28-2008 11:04:19  
That would be my thinking. Ford did every damn thing they could to skin a nickle out of a tractor in those days. Sadly, NH prefers to take that nickle out of them in other ways today that tend to effect the customer more...
They had the right idea in those days. Commonize as much stuff as possible to cut down on design, manufacturing and stock costs. That's a concept that seems to be completly lost on NH today. They just cut the stock at the customer's expense.

Rod

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soundguy

02-28-2008 20:49:47




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 Re: I'm gonna join Rod and Rick in reply to RodInNS, 02-28-2008 14:03:25  
I agree. Looking at the castings of yesterdays tractors. then todays tractors.. they are scrimping on the cast iron now...

thanks for the info.. stuff I wasn't aware of and needed to be.

soundguy



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