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Oil filter conversion for 641

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workmaster

03-18-2008 07:56:25




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I was wondering if anyone knew where the kit to convert from cartridge type filter to spin-on is available at? Any sources online? Thanks!




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karl f

03-18-2008 17:25:01




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 Re: Oil filter conversion for 641 in reply to workmaster, 03-18-2008 07:56:25  
any good parts store that can read the books that carries wix filters, or napa, or carquest. there are quite a few conversion kits listed in the catalog for various makes.

karl f



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36 coupe

03-18-2008 15:15:35




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 Re: Oil filter conversion for 641 in reply to workmaster, 03-18-2008 07:56:25  
The spin on filter is pretty thin. I put a conversion on a Ford car in the 50s.A stone hit the corner of the filter can and caused a leak.The service manager didnt push for any more conversions after that.Ive seen brush hit the filter can hard while using the tractor in the woods .A spin on would puncture if hit.



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workmaster

03-18-2008 15:52:38




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 Re: Oil filter conversion for 641 in reply to 36 coupe, 03-18-2008 15:15:35  
I can't say that I'm worried about that. All modern stuff is pretty much using spin on filters these days. I have friends using spin ons on 600's with no issues. I suppose a freak accident could occur with any piece of equipment, but I'm not worried about it. I wouldn't put it on my tractor if I thought it would harm it.



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36 coupe

03-19-2008 02:09:50




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 Re: Oil filter conversion for 641 in reply to workmaster, 03-18-2008 15:52:38  
Modern stuff tends to place the filter in protected areas.Find the test done on spin on filters.There are some poor ones being sold.Changing filters tends to be a once a year job.A small stone can hit the filter can when traveling on the highway.I had a brake line punched while traveling on a dirt road in my car.Line was not rusty.Why do you think Ford made the original can from such heavy stock.

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Fordfarmer

03-19-2008 07:09:54




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 Re: Oil filter conversion for 641 in reply to 36 coupe, 03-19-2008 02:09:50  
I've seen this response from you about spin-ons before. Not wanting to start an arguement - if you like your canister and want to keep using it, that's fine by me - but here's my $.02. My Jubilee (esentially the same as a 641, just older) has had a spin-on for more than 30 years, with never a punctured filter. Every tractor I've had either came with a spin-on, or I converted it to spin-on. I suppose it is possable to get one punctured, but I've never seen it happen, and none of my tractors (currently have 6 of them)have under 6500 hours. One has about double that, and has been on this farm since new. No punctured filters on it either. How often the filters get changed depends on useage - some of mine get up to 4x per year. As to why the original was so thick... think about how the original get tightened, compared to a spin on. A spin-on tightens at the base (where it is much thicker). The canister tightens by a bolt running through the center, from the outer end to the base, putting compression on the canister, so it has to be thicker to support that pressure.

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36 coupe

03-20-2008 17:02:24




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 Re: Oil filter conversion for 641 in reply to Fordfarmer, 03-19-2008 07:09:54  
Some spin on filters have a steel case that is twice as thick as others.One brand of filter was known to split under high pressure.Another well known brand is the poorest filter you can use.You guess which ones ,I know...



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workmaster

03-19-2008 03:22:48




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 Re: Oil filter conversion for 641 in reply to 36 coupe, 03-19-2008 02:09:50  
Guy, suit yourself on using the can. I really didn"t come here to argue the merit of it. I wanted to know where I could buy it. Now that I"ve found where, I have ordered it and have made my decision. If you want to run with a can, that"s fine. But I have no qualms whatsoever with running a spin on oil filter on my tractor. Neither does anyone else that uses the conversion kit, nor does any equipment manufacturer that uses a spin on filter on their equipment. And no, most filters aren"t tucked away on tractors, they are hung right out there for God and everybody to unscrew or do whatever to.

Enough said, you do what you want and I"ll do what I want. I really didn"t intend to spark a debate, I simply wanted an answer to my original question which I got promptly by another poster.

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36 coupe

03-19-2008 15:59:09




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 Re: Oil filter conversion for 641 in reply to workmaster, 03-19-2008 03:22:48  
No debate,I found the weak point of thin walled filter cans 50 years ago.If your not sharp enough to take sound advice its your oil that will pump out on the ground.Oil pressure will look good until the last half pint pumps out.The second gasket on the adapter is another weak point.



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workmaster

03-20-2008 06:50:58




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 Re: Oil filter conversion for 641 in reply to 36 coupe, 03-19-2008 15:59:09  
Dude, whatever. Take it somewhere else. I seriously doubt that anybody died and left you the god in charge of oil filters... now take a hike and quit polluting my thread.



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36 coupe

03-20-2008 15:40:33




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 Re: Oil filter conversion for 641 in reply to workmaster, 03-20-2008 06:50:58  
People tend to go nuts when they know they are wrong....You just proved it...



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awhtx

03-18-2008 13:31:19




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 Someone was looking for the original canister... in reply to workmaster, 03-18-2008 07:56:25  
system a couple of weeks ago. Maybe he will see this and trade you a spin-on for your canister.



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workmaster

03-18-2008 17:21:44




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 Re: Someone was looking for the original canister... in reply to awhtx, 03-18-2008 13:31:19  
I probably won't get rid of the canister. I'll keep it since it is an OEM part in case I ever want to put it back on for whatever reason.



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workmaster

03-18-2008 08:07:03




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 Re: Oil filter conversion for 641 in reply to wmw, 03-18-2008 07:56:25  
The guy you mentioned, does he have a website or is he a member here? Just wondering about how to contact...



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awhtx

03-18-2008 17:12:16




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 Re: Oil filter conversion for 641 in reply to workmaster, 03-18-2008 08:07:03  
It was just someone who posted here looking for parts. IIRC he was only looking for the stud that screws into the block and then the bolt that goes through the center of the cannister screws into that stud. If you search the archives of this Ford forum for "oil filter" you may find that post.



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awhtx

03-18-2008 17:16:04




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 Here's the fellow looking for the parts... in reply to awhtx, 03-18-2008 17:12:16  
What the heck- I ran the search and found the post in about 10 seconds.



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workmaster

03-18-2008 08:05:49




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 Re: Oil filter conversion for 641 in reply to RodInNS, 03-18-2008 07:56:25  
Thanks for the info!



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