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CNKS

02-21-2005 13:34:24




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Except that 7410 is supposedly for pre-1949 tractors, as is your B. The one I'm working on now is a 1958, which should be 96766, or whatever the last person who mixed it said it was, I guess. I always thought that somewhere back in time, someone (DuPont or PPG or both) matched the color from the factory IH 50 and 2150, that was the "correct" color, and should not be modified -- I guess not. If it's left up to people like me, who confuse red and orange, you could have a thousand colors. I thought that suppliers or body shops only modified the formula when they were trying to exactly match a replacement fender to an existing door on a car or something. If they painted the whole car, they mixed according to the factory code on the car, and then would get no complaints unless they really messed up. Can I go to my friendly Case IH dealer, get a quart of 2150, which in theory is the correct paint, spray it out, have PPG, DuPont, or whoever match it as close as they can -- then can them or I keep that formula and get it duplicated the next time??

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Frank Stalfire

02-21-2005 19:48:10




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 Re: Update in reply to CNKS, 02-21-2005 13:34:24  
The automotive world of color is different fom the antique tractor world for sure, the OEM car makers give a pysical spray out of new colors and the paint manufactuers are responsible for duplicating those colors, the antique tractor world has no colors from the OEM's like IHC so people from Dupont or who ever would literally go to tractor shows and match the colors they found on tractors, they would of course look for tractors with original paint or what was thought to be original, but if you go to a show in PA or Iowa you would probably find different variation of colors, so they would collect as much info as possible and offer an average color thought to match most things in the field, then if someone came to the manufactuer and had a shade it would be created and offered as an alternate. If you have a color you feel is correct and can not find a formula that matches you can have your local jobber match it with either the Spectramaster or equivilent, use a color camera, or if you can provide a sample they can send it to the color lab and they will make a formula, you then can ask for the formula for future mixes. keep in mind if a toner is deleted or added the mix will have to be redone. I hope I'm helping and not confusing you.It's easyer to see the process then to explain the process.

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CNKS

02-22-2005 05:34:58




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 Re: Update in reply to Frank Stalfire, 02-21-2005 19:48:10  
I may sound confused, I'm really not, just asking questions for clarification -- the problem is I do not have access to either the correct color, or one that I believe to be acceptable -- which is why I keep asking questions. I believe you clarified the process with the "going to tractor shows and matching the color" thing. The closest I can now come to the "correct color" is getting some IH 2150 from the dealer and having it matched in acrylic urethane by PPG or DuPont -- but with the changes that CIH's supplier made when they changed to their "acrylic" formula, it probably is not "correct" either. So it appears that it is anyones guess, and that there is nothing scientific about it. It also appears that "correct" is nothing more than someones opinion, even if they do try to get it right.

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