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Re: Clutch finger adjustment SOLVED!

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Pete M.

04-24-2008 16:50:55




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Problem solved!
When I installed the clutch I was certain I had everything right and I did. This tractor's clutch assembly was working fine however, I was depressing the pedal to the end of its travel when I was trying to put it into gear. The old clutch needed to be worked this way because the pressure plate was probably the original. The last owner replaced the clutch disc and not the pressure plate and that's what caused the clutch failure I experienced. This new clutch releases nicely when depressed about half way but if you push the pedal to the end of its travel the disc goes right back into motion. It's an odd anomoly but I'm assuming that the lift arms that lift the pressure plate are somehow pressing backwards against the pressure plate when pressed all the way down. It's something I'll have to remember while using the machine. Thanks to the replies for your help. :)

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Edpap

04-24-2008 20:46:20




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 Re: Clutch finger adjustment SOLVED! in reply to Pete M., 04-24-2008 16:50:55  
Hello Pete,
I would not run that tractor like that, you will wreck your new clutch. I would adjust your lincage so that when the pedal is at it lower stop the clutch is disengaged. I don't know what the spec for free play is on that tractor but there must be some. I think your right the only way the clutch will engage is if the fingers are contacting the clutch disc if that is happening you might break a finger or rip the springs out of the disc. I can assure that the tractor was made to work that way. and it should be fixed.
Good Luck Ed

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Pete M.

04-25-2008 02:53:02




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 Re: Clutch finger adjustment SOLVED! in reply to Edpap, 04-24-2008 20:46:20  
I agree. As I've posted as a reply to another poster, the previous owners removed things from the machine and I've been spending the last year finding that out the hard way. The foot rests used on the farm tractor version are missing and I'm assuming the stop was on them. I'll be fixing that problem this weekend. What I'd give for a couple of good images of what this machine should have on it.



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Pete M.

04-25-2008 06:49:09




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 Re: Clutch finger adjustment SOLVED! in reply to Pete M., 04-25-2008 02:53:02  
It also turns out as I should have expected, the manual I've been using is once again dead wrong. When I bought this machine the linkage for the clutch had the pin in the rear hole. The manual I have also shows the pin in the rear hole and claims that's the setup for the late 4 and 5 spd tractors. I reset the pin to the front hole and the clutch works fine with no overpush on the fingers. This manual is going to get filed in the circular filing cabinet.

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Bob

04-24-2008 18:44:59




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 It's something I'll have to remember while using the machine in reply to Pete M., 04-24-2008 16:50:55  
"It's something I'll have to remember while using the machine."

It's NOT just "something to remember"... It's downright DANGEROUS! In a panic situation, you will depress the clutch all the way, and the clutch won't release!

That was a favorite "trick" of the "Johnny Poppers"... if the clutch brake was not set up right. When the operator pulled the clutch lever back hard to apply the pulley brake, the clutch would be re-engaged. NOT GOOD, when you need to stop in a panic situation!

SERIOUSLY, you need to find out what is wrong NOW, and avoid a disaster later!

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Pete M.

04-25-2008 02:47:59




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 Re: It's something I'll have to remember while using the mac in reply to Bob, 04-24-2008 18:44:59  
I agree. What is wrong is that the previous owners have removed yet another part of the machine I wasn't aware of. This has been a plague since I bought this thing. The foot rests that are supposed to be on this machine are gone but on the lower rails of the subframe are another set. I had assumed they were gone because of the set on the subframe but after some consideration of the present circumstance I've come to the conclusion that the former owner removed them for "convenience" when he changed the clutch the last time. The stop for the clutch pedal would have been on those foot rests. I would love to have a series of good images of what this machine should be equipped with so I could go get the missing parts.
Anyway, I'll be making my own foot rests and stop for the clutch this weekend. The last thing I need is a trip over the side of an embankment on a five thousand pound machine. At least I know the clutch works.

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