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buickanddeere

05-01-2008 05:42:27




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The old stuff gets into the situation where one is always fixing something. I've tried driving vehicles into the ground. When the costs are all tallied up. It's been cheaper purchasing a 2-3 year old from a dealer auction. And driving it 7-12 or so years until something major happens. How does bringing home a 2-3 year old vehicle impress neighbors? And who gives a rat's bum what they think. They can go online and find my T-4 statement. The "pollution junk" has made vehicles last longer, drive better, have more power and greater fuel efficiency. Since the late 1980's 250-325HP gassers six seater trucks getting real world 15mpg and going 250,000miles are the norm. The 60,70 & 80's were gutless, 5-10mpg and needed a complete rebuild before 100,000miles. Anybody remember vehicles until electronic ignition and fuel injection? Vehicles backfiring due to ignition troubles, stuck chokes, stuck heat riser valves, vapour lock,worn points replaced every 3000miles, cap & rotor every 10,000 miles, ne wplugs every 6000miles, failure to start when cold or damp. Just how exactly is that "better"? If older was better, why aren't you all driving 1950's vintage vehicles? I

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36 coupe

05-03-2008 04:55:40




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 Re: stuck in the past afraid of change What can lower in reply to buickanddeere, 05-01-2008 05:42:27  
I would be driving a 30s truck if I could find one.I drove a new 53 Ford truck chasing parts, bringing drivers to their big trucks when I was in my teens.The truck carried no usless stuff on it.It started fine in all weather and got good gas milage.I hauled pallets in it and brought 10.00 20 truck tires to the tire shop for repairs.Friend and I went out with my truck yesterday.I bought some 3/4 plywood,he needed some 2x4s.We bought grocerys ,grain, oil dry.Gas for the tractors.My truck is a 96 F150,gets 19 mpg, cost 2 grand has 177,000 on it.Ive put some brake tubing on it,a starter and new battery in the 4 years Ive run it.I expect things to wear out and have to fix them.Try buying a new spark plug mounted coil for your newer truck.My old truck hauled every thing we needed as well as a new 40 grand truck.We have a saying here that goes.Use it up, wear it out, make it do or do without.The current craze of buying with credit cards has brought this country to ruin.I see people buying food with credit cards now.

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36 coupe

05-03-2008 04:09:53




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 Re: stuck in the past afraid of change What can lower in reply to buickanddeere, 05-01-2008 05:42:27  
My 77 chev has 250,000 miles on it.No over haul needed.It could haul a ton of lime or fertlizer or half cord of firewood with ease.It has a 4 bl carb and can get up an go if you want to waste fuel.I can go out this morning and buy a brand new truck for cash but aint gone foolish yet. Every body drive a used truck any way.The minute you drive off the dealers lot its used and has lost one third of what you just paid for it.Not stuck in the past.Money in the bank draws interest.5 years of payments can double the loan amount.

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Mike M

05-01-2008 06:52:03




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 Re: stuck in the past afraid of change What can lower in reply to buickanddeere, 05-01-2008 05:42:27  
WHAT CARS HAVE YOU DRIVEN ? 60's and 70's gutless ??? Ever here of MUCSLE CARS ! the 80's were way down on power most models from the EPA , but not all. 5-10 mpg ??? 454 or 460 V8 in trucks would get 8 mpg even with the heaviest of loads ! Dad had a 76' Ford van with a 460 and I think it made 13 mpg on the hiway.

And as for short lived ? The reason it appears that they never made it to 100,000 miles was simply the STANDARD practice of the day of odometer roll back ! No one ever knew how many miles were really on one !

I'd rather buy cheap points,caps and rotors and plugs any day than high dollar coil packs,iridum plugs,high dollar fuel module assemblies. 100,000 mile tune ups are more costly than doing old fashion tune ups more often.

And in Ohio with all the salt and calcium cloride spread on the roads , yes the dreaded stuff that eats away tractor rims is now eating away our cars VERY quickly.

My dad used to run Studebaker cars in the 50's early 60's and his older ones full of adults pulling a ski boat and trailer would reportadly get 20 mpg ? or more ? I forget the exact numbers , but he remembers. And I'm sure he also checked it with pencil and paper

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buickanddeere

05-02-2008 06:23:29




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 Re: stuck in the past afraid of change What can lower in reply to Mike M, 05-01-2008 06:52:03  
I'm talking 1971 to 1985 if you read closer. As for the 1960's muscle cars? You can get a plain boring used late 1990's/2000's pickup that will out accelerate some of the 1960's muscle cars. And certainly handle better, brake better, safer in case of a collision and get superior mileage. As for the fastest of the 1960's muscle cars, with the exception of some limited 100 vehicle production race cars to make it legal for Nascar classes etc. I have an 21 year old six cylinder in storage that will take any of them. Have a look at what's been at the dealerships since the late 1990's and what is coming. Off the lot 12 & 13 second cars that are reliable, safe, handle, have brakes and great mileage. They easily tuned for another second less with off the shelf bolt on parts without using NOS. The 1960's muscle cars were great in their day and get even better when we think back 20-40 years to when we were younger. Lets not forget HP then was gross rated at the flywheel on a dyno. Cars are making that HP today at the rear wheels. Turn the calender ahead to 1986 and later and there is no comparison to the 1960's. Better re-check your memory on those mileage numbers. They are too good for those days and they don't measure up to todays numbers. Tune ups or not. Your 1920's to 1980's vehicles didn't cold start or wet start.

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Mike M

05-02-2008 07:31:03




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 Re: stuck in the past afraid of change What can lower in reply to buickanddeere, 05-02-2008 06:23:29  
If stuff from the 20's to 80's didn't start cold or wet then how in the heck did anyone get anything done ? In the early part of that time this country was booming !

I wish I had referance to the article I saw about the tractors that went to the Artic. They were Massey Ferguson TO30 they went threw it all and kept on going !



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