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Re: 1/2 Ton Truck and Tractor Hauling

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Cosmo

11-10-2003 15:39:00




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I haul my Massey Ferguson 35 with a harrow up and down and all around on a 16' trailer behind a half ton 350 Chevy. So far so good.




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D.L.

11-10-2003 20:30:31




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 Re: Re: 1/2 Ton Truck and Tractor Hauling in reply to Cosmo, 11-10-2003 15:39:00  
I've been driving pickup trucks most of my life, and have done just about anything you can imagine...some none-too-smart. I started with a half-ton, sold it and got a 3/4, progressed from there to a one ton dually, and have finally ended up with a four ton (F-550) dually...all of them four wheel drives. I mention that because four-wheelers are generally rated to carry a heavier load than two wheel drive models. What I've found over the years is that I can get a load in motion with just about anything...even a Volkswagen! The excitement comes into play when something goes wrong...like the time I was using my 4 horse trailer to move...my one-ton truck with the trailer attached weighed in at nearly 24 thousand pounds...I had driven several hundred miles on intermitently icy roads with no problems, then, an antelope strolled out onto the road directly in front of me. Obviously overloaded, and with no trailer brakes, there was little I could do. Fortunately, the big buck kept on walking, and I missed him. But I learned a good lesson with that one. The problem is, when you overload a rig like that, you can get the load to move, but then it becomes a tail-wagging-the-dog scenario. I realize the F-550 is a bit extravagant (and I probably can't really justify having it, other than I like it) but we have a 37' 5th wheel camping trailer, a 30' flatbed we use to haul hay, etc, a large & heavy horse trailer...you get the picture...we USE the truck. AND, since I've driven the larger and heavier trucks, I haven't had any times I've felt like I wasn't in control of the vehicles. One IMPORTANT thing...is to get and use trailer brakes...can't tell you what a difference they make. When I first got my set-up, I bought an electronic controller (for less than $100) and installed it myself. BEST MONEY I EVER SPENT!!

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Arnie

11-10-2003 21:18:30




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 Re: Re: Re: 1/2 Ton Truck and Tractor Hauling in reply to D.L., 11-10-2003 20:30:31  
You are saying that 4x4s can haul more thatjust 2 wheel drive, well then why in the truck pamphlet is the 2 wheel drive rated at more hauling weight? just though i would ask and am wondering who is right



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Shane

11-11-2003 04:58:18




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 1/2 Ton Truck and Tractor Hauling in reply to Arnie, 11-10-2003 21:18:30  
I have THE answer for that! The reason is that they figure up a number that a specific truck can haul, including truck weight, passengers, fuel, load, trailer, etc. Now, this is on a base model truck, add long bed, extended cab, and 4wd and you have to subtract weight from what it can haul or pull to stay within the overall total weight for the base model truck. Does that help or confuse?



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K-Mo

11-10-2003 16:04:26




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 Re: Re: 1/2 Ton Truck and Tractor Hauling in reply to Cosmo, 11-10-2003 15:39:00  
I have only seen a slight mention of brakes.
YOU MUST HAVE TRAILER BRAKES. If you don't the trailer will push you right through a STOP sign and will also cause you to "jackknife". The trailer has more weight than your truck. Like the gentleman said, "set the trailer brakes to engage first".
Good luck,
K-Mo



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JohN 50

11-10-2003 18:22:29




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 Re: Re: Re: 1/2 Ton Truck and Tractor Hauling in reply to K-Mo, 11-10-2003 16:04:26  
I have hauled many, many tractors on trailers without brakes. You just have to drive smart, brake early and use the tranny to help slow you down.



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Jonathan

11-10-2003 18:30:25




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 1/2 Ton Truck and Tractor Hauling in reply to JohN 50, 11-10-2003 18:22:29  
what happens if suddenly theres an emergency or you get surprized where you suddenly have to stop?, you'd be screwed.



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