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Re: OT: 3/4 Ton Trucks

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the tractor vet

04-11-2006 08:46:38




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The New ford line up of there gas engines is what turned me off of fords Start looken at the spec.'s on them and just where they make there torque the V10 is way up there in the 4000 RPM range and they have already been makeing changes to it , IMPO when they did away with the long proven 460's that would do a vary fine job and live a long time and why would you want to have ten cyliners to maintain and the 4.5 is to small . And as for the power strok well around here the guy that have had them all had problems with the fly wheels while pullen trailers in the humps and bumps over here . And over the years i have also learned that tryen to have just one dual use truck did not work well for me as when i first went to a one truck for all i was always fixen it as pullen the trailer for what i was tryen to do was just tomuch for a pickup -flat bed what i should have done was have a pickup to beat around in a big truck for the trailer towen but i was tryen to stay away from all the big truck rules and reg. but now they have brought them down to the one ton a and the tandem dual trailers So now if i ever go back to the tractor buying and selling then i will go with a much larger truck and trailer and have to play the game . So if ya don't have that big of tractors to move around then a 3/4 ton and a tandem signal wheel trailer is one way of stayen away from them for now. till they figure out that they can make money off the littel guy.

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mtrim

04-11-2006 10:39:41




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 Re: OT: 3/4 Ton Trucks in reply to the tractor vet, 04-11-2006 08:46:38  
Maybe you better take another look at those specs. The Triton V-10 makes nearly 90% of its torque at 1500 rpms. That is nearly 400 ft lbs at just above idle. If you can find any gas engine that comes anywhere close to those numbers, please let us know. The V-10 outclasses the 460 in every conceivable categor, and gets much better gas mileage.

Might take a look at Ford-trucks.com for further proof.

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dhermesc

04-11-2006 09:31:22




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 Re: OT: 3/4 Ton Trucks in reply to the tractor vet, 04-11-2006 08:46:38  
The 5.4 could hardly pull the weight of a Superduty until it went to the three valve heads last year. A 2000 F250 with a 5.4 is like driving a 4 cylinder Ranger, without the reliability or the fuel mileage (blown head gaskets every 30K or less). The V10 gives a F250 plenty of power with decent (14-17 MPG empty 10 mpg loaded) mileage.

I hear all the stories abut guys getting 19 - 22 MPG from desiels but never witnessed one. We have a couple 2001 F350s with the 7.3 & auto transmission - and average about 16 mpg all the time. We also have 2 2001 Chevies with the 6 speed and the Duramax - they average around 15 all the time. The biggest problem with the manual is the fly wheel. One C3500 that sees hard duty has the fly wheel replaced every 40K, the one that sees light duty has had the fly wheel replaced at 98K.

The repair bills on desiels is enormous. Our Fords were somewhat better then the Chevies but one F350 had over $5000 in repairs in the past 4 months with minimal miles (almost "O" in repairs in the 4 years before that). In the last 6 months we replaced the glow plugs, intake manifold gasket and the injectors on one bank of cylinders (three differant trips to the shop). The Chevies are even worse, the one seeing hard duty (155K miles) has had over $19,000 in repairs since purchased (not counting regular maintenance), the one seeing light duty has had over $9000 in repairs (110K) most in the last 9 months.

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