2x4: I don't have either but have operated the Ford New Holland, impressive tractor I thought. Of course I was not new to articulateds, bought my first one in the mid 70s. I have operated Ford New Holands and Deeres up to 375 hp. Very much more efficient than conventional 100+ hp tractors. I decided roughly around 1976 the Farmall 1066 I bought a year earlier would be my last conventional tractor over 100 hp. The Deere I bought new at same time, being articulated and only 100 hp was just as productive and more efficient. I find this whole thread rather amusing, big loader work as it applies to the vehicle has always been about big weight, balance and really nothing to do with big hp. I ran a big loader last year, it loaded 20ton capacity trucks in 3 bucket fulls. It actually had a dial on dash whereby one could limit hp to the wheels matching it to material being worked on. Even if one choses to do loader work with one of these conventional tractors from NH, CaseIH or Deere, once one gets over 90 hp, he's into heavy chassis, got all the balance weight he's going to get. There is no way a Deere 4630 or IH 1486 are going to outdo a Deere 4030 or IH 886 on loader work. I guess they just like noise, and the thoughs of burning more high cost fuel.
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