Welcome! Please use the navigational links to explore our website.
PartsASAP LogoCompany Logo (800) 853-2651

Shop Now

   Allis Chalmers Case Farmall IH Ford 8N,9N,2N Ford
   Ferguson John Deere Massey Ferguson Minn. Moline Oliver
 
Marketplace
Classified Ads
Photo Ads
Tractor Parts
Salvage

Community
Discussion Forums
Project Journals
Your Stories
Events Calendar
Hauling Schedule

Galleries
Tractor Photos
Implement Photos
Vintage Photos
Help Identify
Parts & Pieces
Stuck & Troubled
Vintage Ads
Community Album
Photo Ad Archives

Research & Info
Articles
Tractor Registry
Tip of the Day
Safety Cartoons
Tractor Values
Serial Numbers
Tune-Up Guide
Paint Codes
List Prices
Production Nbrs
Tune-Up Specs
Torque Values
3-Point Specs
Glossary

Miscellaneous
Tractor Games
Just For Kids
Virtual Show
Museum Guide
Memorial Page
Feedback Form

Yesterday's Tractors Facebook Page

  
Farmall & IHC Tractors Discussion Board

Re: Allan in NE-carb photo


[ Expand ] [ View Follow Ups ] [ Post Followup ] [ Return to Forum ]

Posted by ChadS on November 28, 2004 at 08:22:13 from (66.228.96.168):

In Reply to: Allan in NE-carb photo posted by Paul Shuler on November 24, 2004 at 22:04:18:

Sure is a good looking engine! I think you have a combination of problems going on here. Been dyno tuning engines for years now,, Auto engines, and tractors, here is few things to ponder over in what I have learned on tuning an engine in... Basicly, it is all standard procedure, in order to diaginos the problem, you have to know a few important factors. Then, once you have the cause, the cure is simple. Youll fight it,, trust me you will, LOL! My honest opinion, the Edlebrock version of the AFB is the simplest carb to ever have! When they say, jet it, and forget it, they mean it. This is a full mechanical carb, should be no vacuum accesoires to run anything for the metering stems. Most carbs like this I have ever seen has the counterweight balance to open the metering stems inthe secondaries. It is a good system. But like most aftermarket carbs,, you cant just bolt em on, and run them, they have to be tuned for the engine. Hopefully your carb checks out, rebuild kits are simple, it is easier to tear em apart, and replace the parts as you go along, aint alot to em. But, to me, a backfire, and especially on acceleration, is not a fuel problem, it is ignition. If you have put in a cam, and you have an aftermarket intake, and carb, you picked up alot of different running factors that have changed VS a bone stock, cast iron, quadra jet factory set up. First off, you have picked up alot more volume in the intake, so it will need more fuel, check you plugs, they will tell you if you are getting enough gas to it. Hesitations caused from the carb, well, they should just hesitate, like you are running out of gas, not pop out the carb, or the exhaust. That is why I say its ignition. Here is a few reasons, engine backfire through the carb,,VACUUM LEAKS, an intake valve too tight, the distributor is worn and loose. Coil and electronics are shorting, or failing, spark plugs not at proper gap, timing not set for the rpm range needed for the torque curve. If the intake valves are too tight, itll pop through the carb only upon a lug of the engine, or sudden acceleration. Itll seal upon idle, no load, but you give it the gas, and take up more gaps in the parts, .001 can be the factor of the valve being too tight, or just right. Usually, I set them to when its running, I loosen them tillthe click, tighten it till the quit, then 1/8 of a turn more onthe nut. That, I have found works well, and does not collapse the lifters. Put a vaccum guage on it, see if it is a steady reading. That will tell you if you have a leaking valve, or a vacuum leak. If the igntion timing is set at stock settings, and you have installed a bigger cam, then you have to change the base timing too. That will cause it to pop out the carb, upon acceleration, the mechanical advance in the HEI, will activate, and over advance the timing, causing a pop out the carb at certain rpms, or acceleration. it activates the igntion too early is what I am trying to say,,,, I am not a fan of the Accel super coils and caps for the chevy. I tried to run one on a drag car, and it was junk! Kept shorting in the cap, shorting and burning the rotor carbon tips in the cap. I chased that ghost for a week! I thought since it was ACELL, it was good. Nope, not the case. It takes alot of grease to ensure the Accel system, not to short out in the cap, inside the cap where the coil sits. Grease is the only thing I found that kept it sealed under the cap. Spark plug gaps could be off a tad, if the coil is working, it has a hotter spark at the plugs,, so you can open the gaps up a bit, a combination of plug gap, and too early of igntion timing will cause preigniton. POP out the carb. Try setting the timing by ear, at 3500 rpms, then see how it acts, you want a solid tone out the exhuast, no little occasional puffs, or pops at idle, that is a sign of the timing too advanced. Hope this helps a bit, I have never ever seen an engine,, freshly rebuilt, to specs, that did not have to be retuned, and retorqued, and rechecked, to make it right. and when aftermarket parts are used likr the intake, carb and igntion you are using, it makes it tougher to find it. ChadS


Follow Ups:




Post a Followup

:
:

Subject:

:

:

:

:

: If you check this box, email will be sent to you whenever someone replies to this message. Your email address must be entered above to receive notification. This notification will be cancelled automatically after 2 weeks.


TRACTOR PARTS TRACTOR MANUALS
We sell tractor parts!  We have the parts you need to repair your tractor - the right parts. Our low prices and years of research make us your best choice when you need parts. Shop Online Today. [ About Us ]

Home  |  Forums


Today's Featured Article - Maintaining Rubber Tires - by Staff. The broad use of rubber tires on farm tractors and machinery has resulted in a great saving in both time and operating costs since the time of steel wheels. There are, however, certain basic fundamentals in the care of tires that should be followed carefully if the owner is to derive maximum benefit from his or her investment. First and most important is to maintain proper pressure for the work at hand. Your best guide to proper inflation is the operator's manual or instruction book tha ... [Read Article]

Latest Ad: 1964 I-H 140 tractor with cultivators and sidedresser. Starts and runs good. Asking 2650. CALL RON AT 502-319-1952 [More Ads]

Copyright © 1997-2024 Yesterday's Tractor Co.

All Rights Reserved. Reproduction of any part of this website, including design and content, without written permission is strictly prohibited. Trade Marks and Trade Names contained and used in this Website are those of others, and are used in this Website in a descriptive sense to refer to the products of others. Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy

TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V.

Yesterday's Tractors - Antique Tractor Headquarters

Website Accessibility Policy