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Re: I Don't Get It


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Posted by Hugh MacKay on April 09, 2005 at 03:15:39 from (216.208.58.133):

In Reply to: Re: I Don't Get It posted by RustyFarmall on April 08, 2005 at 22:31:42:

Rusty: To start with, I don't think it is a matter of taking sides. I farmed for many years with 300, 560 and 656. I never saw great problems with front ends until these 100 plus hp tractors arrived on the scene with basically the same front end as the smaller tractors. Yes I agree 66 series were slightly heavier, but only slightly.

My point is, when you start getting into 100 hp plus, it takes more than two tires to put that hp on the ground. The first year I had my 1066, I operated it with single 20.8x38 tires with chloride. Pulling a disk or cultivator, it would leave wheel tracks the disk or cultivator would not cover. Not a very nice seed bed in my opinion, when you watch the double disc openers on corn planter go axle deep.

Second year I dumped the chloride and went to 20.8x38 duals, cured the wheel track problem. Yes you can used brakes turning, but the impact of steping on brakes with 26' cultivator is a far cry from doing the same with 656 and a 13' cultivator. I have seen 1066 front wheel drop in a dead furrow and keep going down. That doesn't even fizz a 1066 with duals, you just dig the front wheel and bottom of spindle from under the cultivator.

My point is those tractors should have been equiped with larger front tires. If your going to 24" tire out front it may as well have power. I have driven newer tractors with front drive and the ease with which they turn under load is unbelievable. My farming operation was done primarily by hired operators, thus you don't get the same degree of care you might give yourself on tractor operation. Cost of operation is the question at hand in my opinion. I don't really see that conventional tractor with front drive as answer. There are a lot of moving parts to those front ends. Articulated is the way to go in large tractors. If one is going to put 6 or 8 pulling tires on the ground they may as well be all same size.


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