Re: A Veteran's Day story

Posted by Rudi on November 12, 2005 at 07:34:47 from (24.231.31.40):

In Reply to: Re: A Veteran's Day story posted by Hugh MacKay on November 12, 2005 at 03:12:31:

I too am a Vet - a very proud Canadian Vet. I am also a first Generation Canadian on my Dad's side and an old timer on my Mom's side. Her family has been here since the 1600's -- a very long time.

Being a Vet gives me some insight that many people who toss around terms lightly do not seem to understand.

I do not mean to insult or anything, but rather to comment on the insults some Vets have been suffering for years.

Veterans are any man/woman who puts on the uniform of THEIR country's Armed Forces and Defends that country. Whether or not you are a vinner or a loser, you are still a Vet.

Guess what guys. My Dad was a Vet. He was conscripted into the Luftwaffe in 1944. He was 13 years old, had lost his Dad in 1939, his Mom and his sister depended upon him to make sure that they were taken care of. He had two choices -

1. Accept conscription
2. Accept the consequences of refusal. There was no such thing as a conscientious objector in Germany prior to 1946. Those consequences involved the expenditure of usually a 9mm or a 7.62mm shell - excecution style.

My Dad chose option number 1.

This is historical fact and is unrefutable.

Are you going to tell me my father was a Nazi? I truly abhor stereotyping and when it comes to the two great wars, Germans are ALWAYS the goat.

In WW1.. it was a not the Germans that started the war ... read your history. This url will provide a lot of clarity -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archduke_Franz_Ferdinand_of_Austria

Treaties signed years before as mutal support or non-aggression pacts where what decided what side one was on. WW2 was a direct outcome of WW1 and the socalled Weimar Republic that was created after the Allies stripped Germany of everything she had.. Think about it -- if your country was the most modern industrialized country in Europe and it was turned back 100 years into a totally agrarian economy, would you not be a little P-R-off?

Nazi is the abbreviation for the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, which is a political party. It is not the Military nor is it the individual soldiers there-in.

You can read about this at this url: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi

My Dad was a Vet. He also was a staunch nationlist. He was not and never could have been a NAZI. He was the prime reason I joined the Canadian Forces. To make sure that a totalitarian government such as the one that ruined his country, could ever hurt mine. For that I am proud to have served.

It is about time in this day and age where people who are apparently so well educated, understand their history. They must stop uttering Politicall Correct garbage and actually understand what they are saying. Ignorance is not an excuse for hurt or insults.

Remember, John Fitzgerald Kennedy once said that If you do not know where you have been, you cannot understand where you are, and you will never figure out where you are headed. History is important...

For those who use the term NAZI lightly... I would suggest you revise your definitions and usage.

Oh, it would be nice if we the next generation of those who suffered under that regime did not have to bear the sins of the leaders of their forefathers. Mostly because of ignorance which has oft been confused with intelligent discourse.

Follow Ups:

• Re: A Veteran's Day story Hugh MacKay 12:59:30 11/12/05 (2)
  • Re: A Veteran's Day story Rudi 15:41:59 11/12/05 (1)
    • Re: A Veteran's Day story Hugh MacKay 16:20:35 11/12/05 (0)

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