Re: Reasons a 656 sticks in reverse??

Posted by Hugh MacKay on December 20, 2005 at 07:33:12 from (209.226.247.136):

In Reply to: Re: Reasons a 656 sticks in reverse?? posted by Steven@AZ on December 20, 2005 at 06:10:17:

Steven: Just goes back to my old theory, Farmall was probably the best drawbar, 3 point or PTO tractor we ever knew. They were however not the best loader tractor. In my opinion Versatile later Ford NH were the only ones that came close with that bi directional articulated outfit. I always said if you were going to install a loader, the axle next the the bucket may as well be the heavy one and that engine may as well be the counterweight. Just never believed in hanging a loader out over a king pin and steering axle, not even if it's 4 wheel drive. Look at the guys that put loaders on 100 hp conventional 4x4 tractors, they achieved nothing more than beat the crap out of the lighter drive axle.

Trucking industry did the same trick, bureaucrats decided we could haul the same axle weight on steering front axles with those big wide tires, as we did on dual rear wheel axles. This cost the users more damn expence than most care to remember. To start with the dual on rear gave you some insurance as it's very unlikely both tires would blow at same time. Having that much weight on steering axles has given lots of operators nightmares they don't care to remember. My point is, just because some design engineer sitting behind a desk designed it, don't mean it was practical or safe.

My opinion, about the only engineering that ever went into a loader on a conventional farm tractor, be it 2 or 4 wheel drive was customer demand. And furthermore the customers drove that to the point they destroyed the very best field work farm tractor ever, the American built row crop.

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