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Re: Farmall Super AV


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Posted by Hugh MacKay on May 22, 2006 at 13:22:01 from (209.226.247.108):

In Reply to: Farmall Super AV posted by Dereck Borders on May 22, 2006 at 07:19:55:

Dereck: To start with a 1953 Super AV would not have come from the factory with C-123 engine or a water pump. The block part number from the factory would have been 354898 R1. It is the same block as C-123 but it would have come from factory with thick sleeves giving it the same 3" bore as all earlier Super A. At serial number 310300, IH started using this block, but in the Super A or AV it remained C-113 until serial number 356001. After that they were given 3-1/8" bore and a water pump making it a C-123 through to the end of Super a production at serial number 357958. Those last 1,957 tractors were called Super A1 or AV1. Don't confuse 1 with I, I stands for industrial.

I suspect the reason for the above is as of 1951 the Super A was the only tractor left using a C-113 engine, as Super C had gone C-123. It was probably less expensive to make thicker sleeves then cast two separate blocks.

The engine serial number of a 1953 Super A or AV will not give you a true indication of the tractor serial number. By 1953 engine serial numbers for Super A were aproximately 2,000 higher than tractor serial number. By 1958 in the 130 and 230 it was off by 47,000 and by 1963 with 140 and 240 it was off by 80,000.


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