Posted by Hugh MacKay on August 25, 2007 at 06:29:02 from (216.208.58.117):
In Reply to: Re: ih wide front posted by Allan In NE on August 25, 2007 at 03:34:56:
Allan: I figured you'd be chiming in here, and yes I agree this may lead to a geometric nightmare, but not for the reasons you outline. Most any good fabricator can modify that trunion in less than two hours.
He can install the 66 series front end, hook the tyrods to a 560 steering control arm, build up the 66 series turning stops so it turns no shorter than a 560 and yes it will require a 1/2 acre to turn.
Here is the real kicker, the 656 steering control arm is close to 1" longer than 560, the only difference between 560 and 656 steering linkage at the axle. If he lenghtens the 560 steering control arm or changes to a 656 steering control arm, it will turn just as short as any 06, 56 or 66 series, however the 560 power steering will not be able to handle the added mechanical disadvantage. I've seen many a guy lenghten the steering control arm on Super C, 200, SH, 300, SM, 400, 560, etc. It will make all these tractor turn shorter, however the non power steering tractors will steer harder and the power steering tractors will have more power steering unit problems. Worked well on SC and 200, I question the advantage on the rest.
Yes, he can do it if he's content to have it steer like a 560 wide front, they all took a 1/2 acre to turn, lets face it, the same mechanicl setup as Super M, 400 or 450, just has a 2 cylinder longer wheel base. If my memory serves me correctly 6". Yes you can make the oldies turn shorter, but there is a trade off.
I was not there when the IH dealer changed the 656 from it's own wide front to the 966 wide front. I did drive that tractor after change over, it had a loader on it and it steered exactly as my 656 with factory wide front. He did go for the 8 stud wheel and wider tires.
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