Posted by Hugh MacKay on August 26, 2007 at 03:48:39 from (216.208.58.128):
In Reply to: Re: ih wide front posted by Allan In NE on August 25, 2007 at 05:00:03:
Allan: Don't talk down to me like that, I know which Farmalls were hydrostatic steering and which were not, I also know which were large chassis or small. The one thing I haven't been silly enough to do, is invest money in worn out, inefficient 100 hp two wheel drive tractors. You accused me of getting Lee into a geometric nightmare. I contend you cause folks a whole lot more nightmares than that, most of these guys don't have the kind of dollars you have to throw at old tractors. Most of what you post is about, "I, me or mine".
Lee bought this front end at a very reasonable price, thus he can afford some modification. The down side, when he's all done the 560 isn't going to turn any shorter than a 560 factory wide front. I've seen a lot of folks lengthen the steering control arm on every thing from Super letter series to 60 series, knowing it would turn shorter like the 04-06, 56, etc. series. The result was they encountered mechanical disadvantave that made it more difficult to steer.
After I bought my 656, I suddenly realized how much shorter turning it had than 560. I did a lot of checking part numbers back then to see why the difference. Actual measuring told me the difference, 656 had a longer steering control arm. Did I change it, no, IH technician told me the down side, harder on 560 power steering. A few years later I bought the 1066 and 560 got relegated to loader and silo blower tractor.
About the 656 with the 966 wide front. I had not seen this tractor in 6-7 years, and knew when new it had same front end as my 656. He called and asked if he could borrow my 24 front end weights for a tractor pull he was taking part in with his new 1486. I advised since half of them were in my pickup and I was going by his place, I'd drop them off. I noticed his 656, and asked about the 66 series wide front. He told me it came from a 966, and invited me to back it away after we tossed the weights in the loader bucket. It did not have the external steering cylinder, and it handled very much as my 656. He said it was a simple change and the IH dealer had done it for him. What did simple mean to this guy, I have no idea. He was much like yourself, in that he had money to throw around. Two years later he sold his farm real estate and moved 150 holsteins, 5 Farmalls and associated equipment 1,000 miles to a new farm.
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