Posted by Hugh MacKay on February 10, 2008 at 00:33:00 from (216.208.58.152):
In Reply to: SC and dual wheels posted by georgeky on February 09, 2008 at 20:57:04:
George: My point is and always has been, every time a manufacturer of engine powered equipment has used a particular engine for more the than one application and two different rated horse power, the engine with the lower rating will always be more successful and have a longer lifespan than the higher rating. I've seen it with IH, I've seen it with Deere and I've seen it with Massey.
Probably one of the biggest differences in load that could be put on an engine was with IH C-113 and C-123 engines. No one can tell me an 11.2x24 tire is going to create as much demand on that little engine as an 11.3x36 tire. It is well known, SA, 100, 130 and 140 have been good for 5,000 hours before rebuild and C, SC, 200 and 230 do well to make 4,000 hours before rebuild. 9 times out of 10 the higher hp engine will have far more wrong with it at rebuild time than the lower hp engine.
Years ago in my hometown we had tractor pulls, whereby the winning criteria was the percentage of load pulled on stone boat in relation to tractor weight. In those days our countryside was loaded with C, SC and 200, probably those 3 accounted for 50% of all tractors. Under those pulling regulations Super A will usually pull close to 3 times it's own weight. A Super H is a close second, Super M will come 3rd and the Super C 4th. The Supers A, H and M will spin out and the SC will die of power. I've seen that hundreds of times. I've experienced it myself with my brothers 230, and no it's not a worn out old tractor, probably amoung the top 10 230s left across North America. I wish my 130 was as well preserved as his 230, but then what could you expect, I doubt if his 230 has seen 2,000 hours since new. I happen to know where it was all those years. My 130 is probably around 12,000 hours
My dad looked at buying a 230 with wide front end, when he bought the 130. I said why would you do that, you already have an H and 300 both nf that will out manuve that 230 any day. We need something short, small, and compact. I know IH sold a lot of C, SC, 200 and 230, personally I could never see it, other than need of a cultivator tractor that size with nf. Plain and simple the Farmalls C, SC, 200 and 230 should have had the C-135 engine.
We've been on this same argument numerous times over the past couple of years. I can tell you, your fast becomming an annoying old fart, and I expect you think the same about me. I'll bet we agree on that. You have a good day George, try hooking the 666 with duals to that mower, it would have the power to roll through that soft spot, quickly.
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