Welcome! Please use the navigational links to explore our website.
PartsASAP LogoCompany Logo (800) 853-2651

Shop Now

   Allis Chalmers Case Farmall IH Ford 8N,9N,2N Ford
   Ferguson John Deere Massey Ferguson Minn. Moline Oliver
 
Marketplace
Classified Ads
Photo Ads
Tractor Parts
Salvage

Community
Discussion Forums
Project Journals
Your Stories
Events Calendar
Hauling Schedule

Galleries
Tractor Photos
Implement Photos
Vintage Photos
Help Identify
Parts & Pieces
Stuck & Troubled
Vintage Ads
Community Album
Photo Ad Archives

Research & Info
Articles
Tractor Registry
Tip of the Day
Safety Cartoons
Tractor Values
Serial Numbers
Tune-Up Guide
Paint Codes
List Prices
Production Nbrs
Tune-Up Specs
Torque Values
3-Point Specs
Glossary

Miscellaneous
Tractor Games
Just For Kids
Virtual Show
Museum Guide
Memorial Page
Feedback Form

Yesterday's Tractors Facebook Page

  

Re: SA electrical problems...final clarification needed


[ Expand ] [ View Replies ] [ Add a Reply ] [ Return to Forum ]

Posted by JMOR on November 06, 2009 at 15:50:55 from (72.181.156.161):

In Reply to: SA electrical problems...final clarification needed posted by Stan - Florida on November 06, 2009 at 10:06:19:


Mark said: (quoted from post at 18:02:37 11/06/09) You fellers have convinced me of one thing:

I should have been Talk Show host.....hehehe!

This subject has created one of the most lively and well behaved discussions I have had the privilege to follow.

For starters....I know it will work if between the coil and distributor because that is how I wired it up!!!!!!

But then I got worried that I had done it wrong and so I came back to ask again.

So, without further adieu I will ask this question:

Just what does the ballast resistor do in the first place, requiring it in the circuit? You see, in my uneducated mind, I thought that the 12 volts being sent to the coil....and then I assume coming out of the coil....was too high for the points (burn them). So, the ballast resistor is added to step the voltage down in order to save the points. See how dumb I am?

So, if you folks can explain to me why the resistor is there to begin with...which should explain why (it goes before or after the coil) and will allow me to sleep better tonight;)!

Scotty, no I haven"t touched the alternator yet. Me and that red tractor are taking a break from each other for a few days.


Actually, Mark, the coil doesn't give a rat's patotie about the voltage applied, what it cares about is the current thru it (energy= 1/2 L X I*2). The ballast resistor would best be described as a 'current limiting' resistor than as a '12v to 6v converting' resistor. Another observation for the doubting Thomases: When you buy a "true 12v coil", the resistance is built-in.....now, think about where that is in the primary circuit with the points and condenser.

Now, I brought all this up, just because I hate to see 'stuff' propagated that truly has no scientific/engineering basis, but 'it has just always been that way'. Same goes for 'don't sit that battery on concrete or the ground, or it will suck the juice out of it", or 'observe the coil polarity or else you lose 25%, 45%, pick your own % of the voltage/energy (pick that too)'. For myself, all of mine have the ballast between the ign switch and the coil. Why? Because the wiring is much shorter & neater that way. I observe convention with coil polarity, too. Why? Because that's the way they came from the factory. I also keep "stock" size tires on all my tractors and other vehicles, too. I like "original". I just don't like stuff done for all the wrong reasons. Take the front mount Ford distributors....when those tractors are switched to neg ground (usually due to 12v alternators), they have virtually no choice but to have a POS spark vs the original NEG spark polarity. If they could reverse the wires on that coil, they could gain the 'thermionic emission' benefit of a neg spark, but due to the internal primary/secondary coil connections (which they can not change), at the same time lose about 200volts of spark voltage, as result of add/subtract of primary/secondary voltage. So, what do ya want extra 200v or neg polarity? Neither matter.

As gentleman John T said, "God Bless yall here regardles of your opinions on this, its a fun discussion I thoroughlly enjoyed among great friends and other fine gents " AND I thoroughly second that! Some of such forum discussions turn to personal attacks and just plain nasty, and that this hasn't done so is a real attribute to this bunch of red power gentlemen!


Replies:




Add a Reply

:
:
: :

:

:

:

:

:

: If you check this box, email will be sent to you whenever someone replies to this message. Your email address must be entered above to receive notification. This notification will be cancelled automatically after 2 weeks.


 
Advanced Posting Tools
  Upload Photo  Select Gallery Photo  Attach Serial # List 
Return to Post 

TRACTOR PARTS TRACTOR MANUALS
We sell tractor parts!  We have the parts you need to repair your tractor - the right parts. Our low prices and years of research make us your best choice when you need parts. Shop Online Today. [ About Us ]

Home  |  Forums


Today's Featured Article - Identifying Tractor Noises - by Curtis Von Fange. Listening To Your Tractor : Part 3 - In this series we are continuing to learn the fine art of listening to our tractor in hopes of keeping it running longer. One particularly important facet is to hear and identify the particular noises that our ... [Read Article]

Latest Ad: 1997 cub cadet 7275 compact utility tractor 4wd hydro trans cracked block 3500 [More Ads]

Copyright © 1997-2024 Yesterday's Tractor Co.

All Rights Reserved. Reproduction of any part of this website, including design and content, without written permission is strictly prohibited. Trade Marks and Trade Names contained and used in this Website are those of others, and are used in this Website in a descriptive sense to refer to the products of others. Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy

TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V.

Yesterday's Tractors - Antique Tractor Headquarters

Website Accessibility Policy