Posted by Owen Aaland on July 10, 2011 at 15:00:41 from (216.47.33.237):
In Reply to: 656 Starter ? posted by TimWafer on July 09, 2011 at 11:28:49:
I show three different starters for a 656 diesel. 1113187 is listed first. It is for the gear drive transmission. Listed second is 1113201 for tractors with hydrostatic drive transmission. Listed third is 1113198 for gear drive tractors. It is also listed as the replacement for 1113187. The gear drive starters have the commutator end frame and some of the barrel machined off to fit the clutch housing. The drive end frames list different part numbers. The DE frame for the Hydro has the shaft centered in the mounting bolt pattern. (64 mm from each hole.) I did not come up with any replacement end frame for the gear drive so I do not know if the armature is centered or offset from the mounting holes.
I believe that the RCP Inc. website has incorrect information on the drive specifications. They list 1970544 and 1877347 as being 9 tooth drive with a 29 mm gear OD. All the other information I have lists them as 10 tooth with 32 mm OD. 1970544 is a spragg type clutch so it has a larger diameter clutch housing than the lighter roller clutch used in 1877347. The outside diameter of the drive gear should tell you for sure what the drive is.
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