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Re: New Holland 650 round baler help!


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Posted by r john johnson on May 01, 2008 at 07:10:46 from (74.127.193.113):

In Reply to: New Holland 650 round baler help! posted by mgm on May 01, 2008 at 06:13:00:

I'll try to help. You need to determine which tie system your baler came with. If it is Autowrap them I think there is a big decal on the twine box cover that says so. If it doesn't say, look over your twine tie system. Autowrap uses a worm gear box to drive the twine arms. It is driven by a belt on the right hand side of the machine. There are different size pulleys to obtain different amounts of twine wrapped on the bale. The bale command uses an electric actuator to drive the twine arms. Look at the pictures in the manual and compare to your baler.

Now the bad news. Both systems need a monitor. You "CAN" get by with an autowrap without the monitor, but you have to watch closely when the baler is almost full. If you miss the start of the tie cycle you will merrily keep baling until you realize and stop, get off the tractor and manually trip the tie cycle. If you miss then you might overfill the baler and cause damage. The monitor is just a buzzer and doesn't cost much to get new from the dealer, at least the one for my 664 didn't. The monitors from the 660 and 664 are different, but work with either baler. Baling with the monitor is SOOOOO much easier.

If you have bale command then you MUST have the monitor for the baler to function. Tell the person/dealer that you bought it from that it is not complete and you want the monitor. Someone is probably being lazy, and does not want to go to the work of removing it from the tractor that was previously running the baler. If all else fails, look in salvage yards for a monitor.

As for why the pickup does not drop, check to see if the owner had a hydraulic lift for the pickup. There will be a small cylinder on the left hand side, under the front shield, hooked to the lifting mechanism. There would be 3 hydraulic hoses, not two, to plug into the tractor. If there is no hydraulic lift, check the linkages to be sure nothing is binding.

HTH

John


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