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Re: MY JUBILEE WON'T START and i'm at the end of my rope


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Posted by Bruce (VA) on November 08, 2009 at 16:06:30 from (24.125.26.10):

In Reply to: MY JUBILEE WON'T START and i'm at the end of my rope posted by louisH on November 08, 2009 at 15:54:00:

First off, replace the plugs. If you flooded the engine, you fouled the plugs. No need to toss them; clean the tips w/ lacquer thinner or heat them for a few seconds w/ a propane torch.


It takes three things for an engine to run: spark at the right time, compression, & fuel in the right mixture. Lets start w/ spark.

There are ways to check for spark that work & ways that don't. Some folks think that checking for spark means pulling a plug wire off & looking for one. Well, it's the distance the spark jumps at the plug that gives you the info you want. It takes about 17kv to jump a 3/16" gap & 22kv to jump ¼” in the open air, so that's why you need to use a spark plug. Or, a store bought plug checker. Remember, it’s 14psi outside of the engine & about 90psi at a 6:1 compression ratio in the cylinders & compressed air creates electrical resistance, so you really need the 17-22kv to fire the plugs when the engine is running.

Crank the engine & look at the ammeter. What is the ammeter doing? Does it show a constant discharge, no movement at all, or does it dip? Next, get the old plug, open the gap to at least 3/16", ground it to a rust & paint free spot on the engine, turn the key on & crank the engine. If the spark jumps the 3/16” gap, you probably don’t have a spark problem. If it won’t jump the 3/16” gap, you have a spark problem. If the ammeter shows a constant discharge, or doesn’t move at all, that also tells you that you have a spark problem.

Do you have voltage across the points when they are open? Verify the gap on the points at .025. Then, run a piece of cardstock or brown paper bag through them. New points sometimes have a residue & old points can corrode, or get grease from the distributor cam on them. Or, you could have used a dirty feeler gauge. (I always spray mine off w/ contact cleaner.) Make sure you have voltage across the points, as in past the insulator on the side of the distributor. That is a very common failure point on sidemounts & often hard to find because it is usually an intermittent short. (If you find the short there, the Master Parts catalog lists everything you need on page 154. You can make the strip and you could also make the insulators as well. But, somethings are just easier & in the long run cheaper to buy. Get the strip, 12209, screw 350032-S, 12233 bushing & 12234 insulator & just replace it all.)


There is nothing wrong w/ using starter fluid; it doesn't foul the plugs like today's additive filled gasoline. But, propane works well also.

Post back w/ results; I'll be interested in what the problem was.



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