Posted by JD Seller on April 08, 2013 at 07:10:11 from (208.126.196.144):
In Reply to: Irresponsible Dad posted by showcrop on April 08, 2013 at 05:14:55:
If he is actually only paying an 1/8 of the court ordered support then she could have him put in jail. You did not say where she is living. Most states the child support is paid through the county court system. If the person paying gets behind in those systems they automatically go for payment. Meaning they attach tax returns and put actions against drivers license and those type of things. Eventually court orders to pay and then contempt of court rulings and jail.
Now the bigger problem with trying to collect from him is that he can claim a low income and get a lower amount set that he has to pay. It sounds like a lot of his business would be paid in cash. Proving what he actually makes would be very hard to do. Also once he gets wind of you trying to do it he can real easy make his income go to almost nothing by just not doing much work. He can plead a bad economy and get that done.
Now some things to think about:
1) How does he get along with his son??? If he treats him well and is involved then trying to collect more child support will ruin that. If he is not involved very much then there is not much to lose other than there will be a war between the boy's parents. It is tough for children when that happens. I know this first hand, my Mother and Dad divorced when I was thirty years old. It effected me even being that old. My younger brothers and sisters really got messed up by it. This a real concern you have to think long and hard about. I know you hate the guy and want blood. Maybe even your daughter does too but your grandson will be the one hurt the most!!!! The relationship between his parents is already done. They are divorced. So a battle between them really will just turn in to a game of causing harm to the other one. That will ALWAYS hurt the children more.
2) Unless he is some kind of super duper handy man he is not making that much money. That type of jobs rarely makes the person doing them that much money unless they are in a major urban area and have all the licenses required. If he is in a rural area and just doing it under the radar then he would be lucky to make 15-20K each year. There would not be much there for your daughter to get when they would figure child support.
3) Is this a big issue with your daughter or is it a big issue for YOU??? The reason I am asking this is she has to be the one to do anything. She also is the one that is going to catch a lot of the fall out from the battle this will turn into. You will not be directly involved so you really have ZERO idea how messy this could get. I do mean messy. I watched my parents fight for the better part of twenty years over child support. The screwed up holidays when neither would budge on the "official" visitation. I mean they would time it down to the minute rather than act like adults when dealing with their children. It was a battle until the youngest turned 18.
My Dad was a cheat but he made good money and he paid $1800 a month 30 years ago but that was not enought to suit my Mother. She fought him all of the time for more and more. She never could understand why her standard of living went down after they divorced. She thought she should still be able to be a stay at home Mom and live on alimony and child support. That is never going to happen with people with normal incomes. Just the cost of two households eats up most of the extra money they jointly have/had.
Do not think I am supporting the guy at all. I HATE dead beat dads too. The difference is that I have seen the battle that this turns into. There is no amount of money worth doing that to the children involved in divorce. IT ALWAYS makes their lives worse not better. Is the few hundred a month she would gain worth the battle??? It would not be to me. I would just help her out monetarily if it is possible. A happy home life for your grand son is more important than a score card that says the courts think the money issue is all "fair".
If money is tight for you then if you live close enough watch your grandson more so she does not have to pay child care so much. That is part of the problems today. Everyone moves all around to "better" themselves. So they rarely have family close enough for any kind of support staff so to speak.
I love having kids around. My wife does too even with her health problems. Any of my families kids are welcome to stay with us when every needed. I do mean when every. We watch the two youngest grand sons (4-5) now when they are not in school. That time is great for us and saves their parents a lot of money they are saving. They bought their first home/land just a while ago. They would not have been able do that with high child care cost. The old watching the young is how it used to be. I think that is one issue with the trouble kids have today too much DAY CARE. It is parenting farmed out for hire. Every see a hired hand do the job as good as the owner???
Just my thoughts and they are worth what you paid. LMAO Have a good day. I know it makes your blood boil but there really is little you can do to correct other people's actions.
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